From brabkin@u.washington.edu Thu Apr 29 09:32:22 2004 Received: from mxu9.u.washington.edu (mxu9.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.174]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.11+UW04.02/8.12.11+UW04.03) with ESMTP id i3TGWLC1055808 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:32:21 -0700 Received: from mxout6.cac.washington.edu (mxout6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.20]) by mxu9.u.washington.edu (8.12.11+UW04.02/8.12.11+UW04.03) with ESMTP id i3TGWKKd009106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:32:20 -0700 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout6.cac.washington.edu (8.12.11+UW04.02/8.12.11+UW04.03) with ESMTP id i3TGWJgZ011195; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:32:19 -0700 Received: from astro (D-128-95-148-144.dhcp4.washington.edu [128.95.148.144]) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.11+UW04.02/8.12.11+UW04.03) with ESMTP id i3TGWJY3020605; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:32:19 -0700 Message-ID: <002101c42e07$87869750$90945f80@astro> From: "Brian Rabkin" To: , "UWRACING" References: <001201c42daf$c71315e0$6798d080@HARTMAIER> Subject: Re: Lake Forest Park City Ordinance 907 could change Burke Gilman trial into a a gravel path. Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:32:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report='__HAS_MSGID 0, __OUTLOOK_MSGID_1 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __REFERENCES 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __EVITE_CTYPE 0, __CTYPE_CHARSET_QUOTED 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __HAS_X_PRIORITY 0, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI 0, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __ANY_OUTLOOK_MUA 0, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER 0, __HAS_MIMEOLE 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __OUTLOOK_MUA 0, REFERENCES 0.000' If that is the logic the residents want then they should not be allowed to do any landscaping or maintenance on their houses either! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Hartmaier" To: "UWRACING" Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:04 PM Subject: FW: Lake Forest Park City Ordinance 907 could change Burke Gilman trial into a a gravel path. Apparently some Lake Forest residents do not like cyclists on the BG and are trying to pass an ordinance that would not allow any maintenance on the trail since it goes over a wetland. Below is some more info on "what YOU can do". I am sure that cascade bicycle club will be there in force to oppose this, but drop by if you want your opinion to be heard. Public Meeting May 13 at 7:30 pm at the City Hall Also, the city is renovating the Fremont Bridge and has neglected to pay any attention to bike flow over the bridge for the new design. There is an open house if anyone is concerned http://www.cityofseattle.net/transportation/fremontbridgeapproaches.htm Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Peter Hartmaier [mailto:Peter.Hartmaier@gte.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 21:40 To: Ryan Hartmaier Subject: Lake Forest Park City Ordinance 907 could change Burke Gilman trial into a a gravel path. Some of your biking teammates and riders may be interested in this development in Lake Forest Park. This ordinance is up for public comment on May 13. When you ride the BG trail you know when you are in Lake Forest Park when you hit the 10 mph speed limit signs. They have had police out on the trial handing out speeding tickets to bikes in the past. Clearly, the community is trying to make it impractical for bikes to use the trail. This ordinance will remove an exemption from the regulations regarding trials. That exemption allowed the BG trail to made of impervious material (i.e. pavement) when it crossed over wetland buffers. If this exemption is removed, King County will not be allowed to continue the surface maintenance. We are unsure of what will happen. Will the pavement be ripped out? Will the existing hard surface be allowed to deteriorate? What is clear is that King County has a program to maintain the trail and this ordinance will prevent that. It seems that with pot holes and root bumps Lake City Council might get speed control or trail avoidance. Cascade Bike Club will attend the public meeting. Cascade is strongly opposed to this ordinance change on the grounds that the BG trail is a vital link to the bicycle network and to have a section revert to soft surface creates a hazard to biking, forces riders onto the traffic, and destroys an asset for more people than those in Lake Forest Park. There will be more information posted at http://www.cascade.org/Advocacy/ in the next few days. Please forward this notice to your biking community. Public Meeting May 13 at 7:30 pm at the City Hall .