From vwheeler@bcc.ctc.edu Fri Dec 4 12:24:41 1998 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA17986 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:24:41 -0800 Received: from cascade.bcc.ctc.edu (cascade.bcc.ctc.edu [168.156.32.120]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id MAA23854 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:24:41 -0800 Received: by cascade.bcc.ctc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:24:43 -0800 Message-ID: From: Vicki Wheeler To: "'residency@u.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: Dependent on sister Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:24:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree with Virjean and have allowed the I.D. card when all other documentation confirms the student's presence for the preceding 12 months. Vicki > ---------- > From: Virjean Edwards[SMTP:vedwards@u.washington.edu] > Reply To: residency@u.washington.edu > Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 11:57 AM > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > Subject: Re: Dependent on sister > > We use it when students state that they do not have a license in another > state, they have signed the application stating they do not have one, and > when all documentation submitted does not reveal anything contrary to > their statement. I would not be comfortable stating one could not get > residency without a driver's license when I know lots of people do not > have licenses and do not drive. I also think we would be challenged if we > pushed it too far. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Virjean H. Edwards University of Washington > Assistant Registrar Office of the Registrar > Residency Officer 264 Schmitz Hall, Box 355850 > (206)543-3290 Seattle WA 98195-5850 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Joseph M. St.Hilaire wrote: > > > ***Hmmm, amazing. I thought that once a student turned 18, he/she could > > not be claimed under legal guardianship. > > > > If I may change the subject: > > > > A student just told me today that she got a Washington ID card 18 months > > ago and that when she got it, the Licensing official punched a hole in > her > > Calif driver's license, rendering it invalid. She claims, therefore, > that > > she declared her intention to become a resident in June 97. (She > doesn't > > have a car and had no need for a DL.) > > > > All this time I've been telling students that an ID card is practically > > worthless for purposes of establishing residency. > > > > What say you to this? > > > > Joe St.Hilaire > > Western > > > > On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Annette Hayward wrote: > > > > > I recently had a situation where a dependent student moved from Calif. > to > > Wash. to > > > live with her aunt. The aunt obtained a legal guardianship through > the > > court, > > > even though the student is 20 years old, and I was then able to grant > the > > student > > > resident status. This legal process did not seem to be burdensome for > aunt > > or the > > > student, and it did not take a long time. > > > > > > Joseph M. St.Hilaire wrote: > > > > > > > ***Vicki: Let us be confused together then! If our chair, Virjean, > is > > > > listening, she may want to put this case on the agenda of our > upcoming > > > > training session. Meanwhile, I will run it by our assistant > attorney > > > > general for an opinion and I'll shoot that out to you as well. Stay > > > > tuned. > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Dec 1998, Vicki Wheeler wrote: > > > > > > > > > Joe, these questions tend to confuse me because I have been under > the > > > > > impression that a student, to be considered "dependent", must be > claimed for > > > > > income tax purposes by either parents or legal guardians. Yet > some > > > > > responses to similar questions in the recent past suggest that a > dependent > > > > > student does not necessarily need to be claimed on parents' tax > return to be > > > > > considered dependent. What about an adult sibling? > > > > > > > > > > I have encountered situations similar to this one in the past and > have > > > > > denied residency. If there are other options available, I'm > interested. > > > > > > > > > > Vicki Wheeler > > > > > BCC > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > From: Joseph M. St.Hilaire[SMTP:saint@admsec.wwu.edu] > > > > > > Reply To: residency@u.washington.edu > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 4:34 PM > > > > > > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > > > > > > Subject: Dependent on sister > > > > > > > > > > > > Have we discussed this one before? It sounds familiar: > > > > > > > > > > > > High school student whose parents have lived in India her entire > life. > > > > > > She has two older siblings who have come over here to attend > college, but > > > > > > both of them went to private colleges. Older sister has lived > in Seattle > > > > > > several years and she has lived with older sister since June and > is now a > > > > > > high school senior. Older sister has power of attorney but of > course > > > > > > cannot claim her on her taxes, even though she has been little > sister's > > > > > > sole means of support. Parents back in India have never been > attached to > > > > > > Washington; don't have any US state driver's license, etc. > Little sister > > > > > > works part-time, has earned more than $2,000 since June. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any chance of gaining residency by Fall 99? > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe St.Hilaire > > > > > > Western > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .