From shiner@home.com Mon Aug 9 16:08:01 1999 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA23594 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:08:00 -0700 Received: from mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.tx.home.com [24.4.0.66]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.06) with ESMTP id QAA29042 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:07:59 -0700 Received: from c539343b ([24.5.22.203]) by mail.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990809230757.MGUK8716.mail.rdc1.tx.home.com@c539343b> for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:07:57 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01bee2bc$88573c20$cb160518@alntn1.tx.home.com> From: "dan crawford" To: References: <8aca5582.24e05716@aol.com> Subject: Re: ken's album Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:11:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 speaking of turning down offers...i went to see shiner on their latest road log, and when we were talking with them on the first night in denton, we were priming them to tell us just what the dea lwas with tim dow, their illustrious and ex drummer. so we got the whole scoop on that, and in the process of giving us all that information, the topic of tim's skill and ability came up, and they mentioned... that tim auditioned for failure. around the time of magnified, i guess it was. and get THIS. they offered him the slot. and get THIS. he said no. woof. now i'm a big ass shiner fan (hence the email address) and to hear that just started my mind into overload. what if he had taken it, what would those albums sound like? i slag on no one, i love kellii and his accomplishments in failure, but i personally feel, as a drummer myself, that tim dow is one of the most inventive and ground-breaking drummers of rock right now. so, what IF he had joined failure? oh how i'd love to check out the alternate universe where something like that actually happened. how about you? call in, america, let your voices be heard. and all you other crazy countries, too. $2.95 the first minute, $1.95 each additional minute. 1-800-FAILURE SEX CHAT. d ----- Original Message ----- From: To: FML [failure mailing list] Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 11:08 AM Subject: Re: ken's album "on" is ken's groups name. i don't know what the name of the album will be. i forgot to mention that troy turned down an offer from nine inch nails. good call on his part. Lauren .