From pericles@astro.ocis.temple.edu Sun May 21 03:19:01 2000 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA27592 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 03:18:58 -0700 Received: from typhoon.ocis.temple.edu (pericles@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.103]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA09368 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 03:18:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (pericles@localhost) by typhoon.ocis.temple.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23086 for ; Sun, 21 May 2000 06:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 06:18:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel P. Tompkins" X-Sender: pericles@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu To: classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Triump(h)us In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The penultimate sentence below is just the one William Harris contests: Rome was a special case, he says. Dan On Sat, 20 May 2000, James M. Pfundstein wrote: > At 6:56 AM -0400 5/20/2000, Daniel P. Tompkins wrote: > > This seems a little reductive. What evidence is there that Rome had a > particular and defining "imperative to be cruel" that would justify a > comparison to the Nazi police state, or even (less inflammatorily) the > relatively short-lived empires of (neo-)Assyria and (neo-)Babylonia? There > was cruelty in Rome, as indeed there is in every human culture (human > beings being what they are). There were other features as well. .