From russy@interlog.com Sun Jul 30 07:56:16 2000 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA22254 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:56:15 -0700 Received: from smtp.interlog.com (smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA20935 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:56:15 -0700 Received: from russyinterlog (ip204.toronto39.dialup.canada.psi.net [154.5.80.204]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA04237; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006c01bffa36$27f35660$cc50059a@com> From: "Russ Yurkow" To: , "Lisa the Dreamer" Cc: References: Subject: Re: case studies 107,108,109 advice please (capitals are for focus,emphasis) per relationship INTIMACY Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:46:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DO NOT SEND Russ ----------------------------------------------------------------- "How much the best of possessions is the ability to listen to wise advice" - Sophocles (from Antigone) ----- Original Message ----- From: Harold Helm To: Lisa the Dreamer Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 6:17 AM Subject: case studies 107,108,109 advice please (capitals are for focus,emphasis) per relationship INTIMACY > please > do > reply.. > > Divorce from God must be like divorce from another human - REGAINING lost > GROUND / heaven: What must we do or avoid to be "saved" REstored Tenderly? > Altruistic INTIMACY paradise found lost regained - koine agape TEAM mates? > How do we TUNE, retune SOULS to one another, loving, CARING? - lovePartner > Deeply as the most perfect of lovers, unconditional as pets? - Harold Helm > > Case Study 107 - A young person reestablished contact with a long ago > friend - the relationship blossomed - they became engaged - quickly a > pallor set in - the relationship was all take no give emotionally and > spiritually - and TERMINATED (wisely) by the woman before marriage... > What changed was lack of agape sharing emotionally ... judgementalism > and jealosy and imperiousness, selfishness of ONE partner brought the > separation - it will not be regained - and should not, or COULD it? - > How do YOU counsel OTHERS who LOST it - what ... if they want it back > must occur, to regain the unconditional trust and enthusiasm of Love? > > > Case Study 108 marriage flame burnout - things change -how to RECOUP? > ******************************************************************** > Who are the most loving, altruistic persons YOU have ever known? -HH > What are/were the characteristics, secrets? WHO does TRUE sharing? > Ultimately is HUMAN love based on gender, or on communication skill? > Accepting loss, and INSIGHT how to RECOUP or REmove, onward, ANYONE? > Been there DONE that? YOUR COUNSEL, detail, vulernable ROLE models? > Case Study 109 --- YOU write up the case and SHARE it please -Harold > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe-blank message to: RM-COUNSEL-subscribe@egroups.com > Harold Helm Houston TX USA 713-529-2333 > > > > > .