From jmpfund@bgnet.bgsu.edu Sun Oct 15 11:52:38 2000 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA141916 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:52:37 -0700 Received: from sp07.notesnet.bgsu.edu (sp07.notesnet.bgsu.edu [129.1.7.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA29415 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:52:37 -0700 Received: from [129.1.190.46] ([129.1.190.46]) by sp07.notesnet.bgsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.2b) with ESMTP id 2000101514470287:84 ; Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:47:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jmpfund@popj.bgsu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20001013221637.70A1B36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> References: <20001013221637.70A1B36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:50:33 -0400 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: James Pfundstein Subject: Re: Greek and Indian Philosophy X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL03/SERVER/BGSU(Release 5.0.2b |December 16, 1999) at 10/15/2000 02:47:03 PM, Serialize by Router on MAIL03/SERVER/BGSU(Release 5.0.2b |December 16, 1999) at 10/15/2000 02:47:08 PM, Serialize complete at 10/15/2000 02:47:08 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >It's true that old saying, you learn something new everyday. Forgive >my ignorance, I've never even heard of an Enuma Elish until today! > >Now I'm wondering, is there any geometrical constructs or arithmetic >in the Enuma Elish? Does anyone construct or derive abstracted >geometric or numeric notions and conclusions about the nature and >workings of reality in its corpus? > >I'm still just testing the tensile strength of this limb. > >Sotiris Sotiropoulos > Babylonian culture is big on mathematics and astronomy but not, it seems, geometry, a typically Greek method of astronomical calculation. For a full treatment of Babylonian math & astronomy see chs. 2 & 5 (respectively) of Neugebauer's _The Exact Sciences in Antiquity_. There is also Dicks' _Early Greek Astronomy to Aristotle_, but unfortunately he is rather narrow-minded about accepting a significant amount of influence on Greece from points east, even when it's stone obvious (as Al Kriman might say), e.g. the constellations Leo and Taurus. The big moment in Babylonian astronomy, though, is rather late in the history of Babylonian culture-- contemporary with Hellenistic Greece. Much later than the _Enuma Elish_, it seems, and by this time it's really an open question who is influencing whom. JM("Mathematicus")P .