From jeffchiu@u.washington.edu Thu Oct 10 11:32:16 2002 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with SMTP id g9AIWEFD095230 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:14 -0700 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Oct 10 11:32:14 2002 -0700 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.19]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with ESMTP id g9AIWEIs005042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:14 -0700 Received: from mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.17]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with SMTP id g9AIWC7J025731 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:13 -0700 Received: FROM dante37.u.washington.edu BY mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Oct 10 11:32:11 2002 -0700 Received: from localhost (jeffchiu@localhost) by dante37.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.08) with ESMTP id g9AIWA88107996 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Chiu" To: Transnational Studies Group Subject: Re: CIDR update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We obviously don't want to offend or alienate the S.C. at this point. My two cents is that the Lowe schedule remain the way it is. Todd's suggestion is great: perhaps we can negotiate CIDR funding for next year. Or we could work with them for the 2nd speaker in the spring, and offer to list them anyway as a co-sponsor for Lowe--that's really the best we can do at this point with regard to Lowe, no? The more I think about it, the less I'm thrilled with the idea of carrying on pedagogy (as institutional practice) for next year. The richness in the concept of transnational literacy for me is that it allows for an examination of other practices that fall into the category of producing critical perspectives on transnational phenomenon/globalization. These can be located in cultural practices, non-university organizations, political advocacy, etc. This could also be a way to open up the discussion for grads from other depts who might not be invested in pedagogy per se. Jeff On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, todd f tietchen wrote: > > Here's my feeling...The talk is already listed on the Simpson Center > promotional materials at 7 PM. While their offer is far more generous > than the half-ass commitment the Simpson Center has shown at times (yes, I > said it) we took the funds, and agreed to have them be a chief sponsor of > the event. I don't think it's a good idea to alienate the Simpson Center > at this point--nor do I want to alienate CIDR who, to be frank, seems to > be more enthusiastic about what we're doing... > > I am also concerned over the extent to which the focus of Lowe's talk will > live up to CIDR expectations. I suspect that the talk will touch on > interdisciplinarity and be informed by an interdisciplinary hermeneutic > but I doubt that her talk will directly address issues of curriculum or > pedagogy--the workshop is the place this will probably happen. > > In any case, a way out of this "impasse" may be to write a > carefully-worded note to Kathleen and Margit which explains CIDR funding > offer and asks them to help negotiate--or advise us on how to > negotiate--the cooperation of CIDR. Of course, we also have project > advisors who are there to counsel us on these sorts of institutional > issues. > > On the other side of things...Should "the project" decide to stay focused > on pedagogical/curricular issues for next year, which might mean an > extension and/or re-focalization of this year's focus, this might be an > opportunity to get CIDR on board. We can say, in other words, that while we > are sorry we are unable to change the time on this talk, we would be very > excited about working closely with them on a series for next year which > extends (in some way) this project. This would secure what > appears to be generous funding for next year while assuring (I would > think) some funding for the Lowe talk--even if it's not as generous as the > offer we have now. I hope that makes sense...? > > Then again, I suppose we could have the Simpson Center and CIDR listed as > co-sponsors and actually use most of the Simpson Center funds for the > second speaker. Obviously there are a few ways of doing this--curious as > to what everyone else thinks. T. > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Todd F. Tietchen > Department of English > University of Washington > Seattle, WA 98195-4330 > > > On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Rahul Gairola wrote: > > > Hello all: > > > > I wanted to debrief you on all on the meeting I had today with the folks at the CIDR. The meeting generally went well though we did encounter a salient problem along the way. Lana and Brenda were quite nice though a little eager to persuade us to do things their way. > > > > This is what CIDR would like to do. It wants to fund Lowe's lecture on 1/30 and include it as one of their quarter forum events on their website. This means CIDR would specifically: > > > > -- Cover full cost of Lowe's honorarium > > -- Cover full cost for use of the Walker Ames Room > > -- Host a food and drink reception the night of the lecture (not the workshop) > > -- Extensive campus-wide publicity > > > > This truly is an exceptional offer but there is one outstanding problem: their traditional time for quarter forum events has always been 3:30-5pm, and they made quite a fuss about not knowing that our event was an evening event (this is not mentioned in the grant prop). I explained that this part of Lowe's visit was scheduled far in advance, and that I had faithfully reserved the Simpson Center seminar and main room for the syllabus workshop during that time. They, however, seem to be more enthusiastic about her lecture. They wondered whether we might ask Lowe to speak at 3:30pm instead of 7pm because the audience will, according to their estimates, be more inclusive of campus faculty (who the CIDR is committed to working with).> > > > I basically apologized and said that I would inquire about changing the time but as far as I knew this had been established well in advance. They said despite what happens, this DOES NOT mean they won't fund us or at least help us widely publicize the event, but they do hope we can move up the time and attract a wider campus audience that wouldn't cut into people's commuting/ dinner times. They also made the point that since so many UW folks have kids and other post-5pm responsibilities, this might limit the number of UW people we attract. They said their main goal is to fund our event if it is specifically tailored to benefit UW faculty, staff, and students.> > > > Lana and Brenda have asked me to get back to them about the time and confirm when Lowe will talk as soon as possible. We have also reserved the Walker Ames Room for Lowe's lecture. They fully understand that she must have booked a flight and may have other plans that prevent her from speaking earlier. However, they told me that their time slot might conflict and that they might consequently re-think some of the funding they initially promised (see above). In their words, "It doesn't make much sense for us to extensively fund this event if the people we would like to benefit from it cannot attend." Though I assured them that Lowe would equally draw a massive crowd in the evening, they nonetheless asked me to check on the time and they will go back to Dr. Wulff, the director of the Center, and let him knwo that our event is at 7pm not 3:30pm.> > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Rahul > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Rahul Krishna Gairola > > Department of English Office: Padelford B33 > > University of Washington Hours: M, W 10:30-12pm > > Seattle, WA 98195-4330 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .