From dmeadows@idirect.com Sat Sep 22 18:45:17 2001 Received: from mxu102.u.washington.edu (mxu102.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.08) with ESMTP id f8N1jGN89986 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 18:45:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by mxu102.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.08) with SMTP id f8N1jGE09391 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 18:45:16 -0700 Received: FROM ares.idirect.com BY mxu2.u.washington.edu ; Sat Sep 22 18:45:15 2001 -0700 Received: from raoul.idirect.com (on-ham-a53-01-57.look.ca [216.154.51.57]) by ares.idirect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01809 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 21:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010922213454.025b6ec0@idirect.com> X-Sender: dmeadows@idirect.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 21:46:12 -0400 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: David Meadows Subject: RE: Ignorance or arrogance? In-Reply-To: <3B83090B@webmail.fairfield.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:43 PM 22/09/2001 -0400, you wrote: >My comment referred to the crudity of Ms. Hamel's remark. Those who know me >know that I do not have to be lectured on Canada's virtues. Those who don't >should read more carefully and not jump to conclusions. I wasn't lecturing you on Canada's virtues. I was lecturing you on what true ignorance is. I was indirectly lecturing VT on what HE, as a Greek, should be rather more aware of, if he wasn't already. Classics is a discipline which is central to the humanities and we're at the beginning of a historical process where the very nature of what humanity is all about is going to be splattered across our television screens on a nightly basis. And we -- especially those of us who have been on this list practically since its inception and have discussed things far less connected to anything 'classical' -- are to bow and kowtow to some shovelbum's incoherent whine about what we -- the ones who have pretty much made this list what it is -- can and cannot discuss on this list? Personally I think DH's response was rather restrained ... my knee jerk reaction (which rarely make it to the list anymore, although I'm making an exception in this case) was to include a cognate phrase to DH's, which also applied to anyone who looked like VT, and the horse he rode in on. Further, there were assorted suggestions about opening his eyes and smelling the spleen, since it was obvious his brain was crammed rather far beyond that nether eye of his. But I didn't want to jump to conclusions of course. ================================================================ David Meadows Libertas inaestimabilis res est. ================================================================ .