From MackCE@dshs.wa.gov Mon Jul 30 08:51:34 2001 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f6UFpW096734 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:51:32 -0700 Received: from dshsmsg3 (dshsmsg3.dshs.wa.gov [147.56.131.14]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f6UFpWF02799 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:51:32 -0700 Received: from 147.56.131.30 by dshsmsg3 with ESMTP (DSHS MMS SMTP Relay (MMS v4.7)); Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:51:30 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: 1a548dfa-be79-11d4-99cf-009027d0d054 Received: by dshsmsg4.dshs.wa.gov with Internet Mail Service ( 5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:51:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Mack, Curtis" To: "'waphgis@u.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: WAPHGIS: a list of search engines Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:51:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 177B5D08391475-02-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been holding back, but know I must request that people stay on topic. Thanks, sorry for being grouch. Curtis Mack MackCE@dshs.wa.gov Geographic Information Specialist (360) 902-0747 Washington State 47.0356 N by 122.8946 W Dep. of Social & Health Services MS-45204 OB2 14th & Jefferson Research & Data Analysis Olympia, WA 98504-5204 > -----Original Message----- > From: Elio Spinello [SMTP:espinello@csun.edu] > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:05 AM > To: waphgis@u.washington.edu > Subject: Re: WAPHGIS: a list of search engines > > On the other hand, the profit motive incents innovation. There is a > product that I have been using called AdAware that scans through your hard > disk and detects cookies and advertisers' "spy software" that has been > placed there without your knowledge. The basic version of the program is > free and can be downloaded from http://www.lavasoftusa.com/aaw.html . I > have been using it for several months and it has been really interesting > to > see what files it finds and who put them there. > > Elio Spinello > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +- > +-+- > Elio Spinello, MPH > California State University, Northridge > Department of Health Sciences > 18111 Nordhoff Street > Northridge, CA 91311 > email: espinello@rpmconsulting.com Home Page: > http://www.csun.edu/~hchsc018 > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +- > +-+- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Meuser" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: WAPHGIS: a list of search engines > > > > Not surprising that the big search engines are driven by profit > > motives. I get messages from them all the time telling me how I > > can improve my rankings by paying $$. The internet became a > > public utility for a time, but was overtaken by corporate interests. If > > it were to become a true public utility and was supported in full by > > public funds, it might have a chance of becoming an increasingly > > valuable resource in the future, helping provide real solutions to real > > problems. Fat chance! > > > > I expect that the internet will continue its downward spiral towards > > increasing commercialization, increasingly destructive commercial > > failures, increasing spam and all the other high tech irritations, and > > will become increasingly irrelevant to the everyday lives and > > problems of people around the world. Being on the "wrong" side of > > the digital divide will be seen more and more as a positive aspect of > > life. > > > > What else can we expect in a world where technological advance > > is driven by profits (and we do a very poor job at predicting what will > > be profitable) rather than a quest to solve real problems. > > > > Will Internet II do any better? We'll see. > > > > Mike > > > > On 29 Jul 2001, at 1:14, Franz Calvo wrote: > > > > > Dear Richard Hoskins, > > > > > > We have just received a valuable list of search engines. > > > > > > Here is a side of search engines we should be aware of: Search engines > > > are selling results to advertisers ... without giving proper advice to > > > their regular users. > > > > > > References are listed below. > > > > > > Franz > > > > > > =========================================================== > > > Key Internet Search Engines Accused of Misleading Users > > > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000058329jul17.story > > > JUBE SHIVER Jr. > > > July 17 2001 > > > Web: Complaint filed with FTC charges firms like Netscape and Lycos > > > with failing to disclose influence of paid ads. > > > > > > Group Accuses Search Engines of Deceptive Advertising > > > http://www.dmnews.com/cgi-bin/artprevbot.cgi?article_id=16195 > > > July 17, 2001 > > > By: Janet A. Hines > > > Commercial Alert, described on its Web site as "protecting children > > > and communities from commercialism," said it filed a complaint > > > yesterday with the Federal Trade Commission against eight > > > search-engine companies, alleging deceptive advertising. > > > > > > 'Fess Up, Search Engines > > > By Jen Muehlbauer > > > Jul 17 2001 > > > http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,27975,00.html > > > A consumer group says advertising money can make you look better on a > > > search engine. > > > > > > Internet search engines charged with deception > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010716/n16366515_2.html > > > By Andrew Quinn > > > Monday July 16 > > > SAN FRANCISCO, July 16 (Reuters) - Eight major Internet search engines > > > were accused of deception Monday as a consumer group demanded that the > > > Federal Trade Commission investigate whether they are coughing up > > > ``ads in disguise'' in response to user queries. > > > > > > Group led by Ralph Nader accuses search engines of deception > > > By Michael Liedtke > > > July 16, 2001 > > > http://www.salon.com/tech/wire/2001/07/16/nader/index.html > > > Attacking an increasingly popular Internet business practice, a > > > consumer watchdog group Monday filed a complaint with the Federal > > > Trade Commission asserting that many online search engines are > > > concealing the impact special fees have on search results by Internet > > > users. =============================================================== > > > > > > > > > >From: "Richard Hoskins" > > > >Reply-To: waphgis@u.washington.edu > > > >To: "WAPHGIS" > > > >Subject: WAPHGIS: a list of search engines > > > >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:04:41 -0700 > > > > > > > >A list of search engines. I f someone knows one that is oriented > > > >towards, health, epidemiology, GIS, geography, biostatistics please > > > >let us know > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get > > > your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > Michael R. Meuser, > > meuser@mapcruzin.com > > > > http://www.mapcruzin.com/ > > Environmental & Social Cartography, WebMaps > > Environmental Justice, Right-to-Know Advocacy > > > > Surviving Climate Change > > http://mapcruzin.com/globalchange21/ > .