From vwheeler@bcc.ctc.edu Tue Feb 16 08:40:47 1999 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA18120 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:40:46 -0800 Received: from cascade.bcc.ctc.edu (email1.bcc.ctc.edu [168.156.32.121]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id IAA08377 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:40:46 -0800 Received: by cascade.bcc.ctc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1R9LYS85>; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:40:48 -0800 Message-ID: From: Vicki Wheeler To: "'residency@u.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:40:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My instinct is to agree...for me, it continues to come back to the refugee applying for the green card and being approved... > ---------- > From: Burchell, JoAnn[SMTP:JBurchell@scc.spokane.cc.wa.us] > Reply To: residency@u.washington.edu > Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 11:38 AM > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum > > On the back of the reply (Notice of Action, Form I797C) that INS sends to > the person making application to adjust to permanent resident status (this > instance a refugee applying for their green card) - they state that the > situation is not a sure thing. Just because they apply, it does not mean > that they will receive their green card. > > I actually found the form. It states the following: > > Under the heading of general: "The filing of an application or petition > does not in itself allow a person to enter the United States and does not > confer any other right or benefit." > > So I don't see how just being here a year allows them to be reclassified > as > a resident - or am I missing something? > > > Jo Ann Burchell * > Senior Secretary and > Residency Classification Officer > Spokane Community College > 509-533-7019 > jburchell@scc.spokane.cc.wa.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vicki Wheeler [SMTP:vwheeler@bcc.ctc.edu] > Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:56 AM > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum > > JoAnn, I agree with you and here at BCC we do accept the I-551 also > because > it verifies that the refugee has applied for change of status and > been > approved. > > What is at issue here is whether refugee students who have not > applied for > green cards are eligible for resident status after 12 months, yes? > > > ---------- > > From: Burchell, JoAnn[SMTP:JBurchell@scc.spokane.cc.wa.us] > > Reply To: residency@u.washington.edu > > Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:59 AM > > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > > Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum > > > > I think if they have their passports stamped with: > > > > "Processed for I-551 > > Temporary Evidence of > > Lawful Admission for > > Permanent Residence > > Valid Until (date stamped in) > > Employment Authorized > > > > I have this as an example that I inherited with my residency > information. > > It goes on to say that "Such persons are lawful permanent > residents and > > are > > awaiting the issuance of their permanent resident alien card. > These > > aliens > > are NOT to be considered temporary residents. The expiration date > on some > > alien cards should have no bearing with determining status under > the State > > of Washington residency statutes." > > > > This information came from INS. > > > > SCC honors this stamp. If they have this stamped in their visa; > they're a > > refugee; and they've done all the other requirements - we give > them > > residency. > > > > > > Jo Ann Burchell * > > Senior Secretary and > > Residency Classification Officer > > Spokane Community College > > 509-533-7019 > > jburchell@scc.spokane.cc.wa.us > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tika Esler [SMTP:tesler@bcc.ctc.edu] > > Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:19 AM > > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > > Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum > > > > I almost hate to bring this up, because Virjean did such a > nice > > clean job of > > explaining the difference between the categories, BUT I > gotta do it! > > > > It seems to me that the INS can define these categories for > us, but > > that > > they can't make the statement that we don't need a green > card to > > shift a > > student from the "refugee tuition status" to resident. > Wouldn't > > that be an > > AG call? > > > > I don't propse asking the AG, but should we not all agree > that we > > keep the > > student in the refugee status category until they can > provide the > > green > > card? Am I way off on this one? > > > > You should know by now that I take the minimalist approach > when > > possible and > > even advocate the changing to a more lenient timeline to > determine > > residency > > for community college tuition purposes, so I am usually not > the > > conservative > > one, BUT this seems a bit iffy to me. > > > > Talk to me, I'm listening! > > Tika A. Esler > > Associate Dean of Enrollment Services > > Bellevue Community College > > (425) 641-2205 > > tesler@bcc.ctc.edu > > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Virjean > Edwards[SMTP:vedwards@u.washington.edu] > > > Reply To: residency@u.washington.edu > > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 3:28 PM > > > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > > > Subject: asylee,refugee,political asylum > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > I finally got in touch with Brent Shore and I think I > understand > > what he > > > said. How's that for confidence! > > > > > > Refugee: These people are granted refugee status outside > the USA, > > they get > > > a residency waiver for tuition purposes in their first > year. They > > are > > > eligible to apply for resident alien status after living > in the US > > for one > > > year, but there are only 10,000 spots available per year > for this > > status > > > so many have to wait longer. They can apply for > > residency-for-tuition > > > purposes after the first year--permanent residence card > not > > required as > > > long as they the have the approved refugee status. > > > > > > Asylee: These people are granted refugee status in the > US! Their > > status > > > is the same as the refugee, the difference is that the > refugee is > > approved > > > outside the US and the asylee gets approval while living > in the > > US. He > > > considers asylees the same as refugess once they are > approved for > > asylum. > > > No green card is required for them to get residency for > tuition > > purposes, > > > provided they have approved asylum and they have lived > here the 12 > > months, > > > etc.. > > > > > > Apparently, if someone says that s/he was initially a > refugee and > > s/he now > > > has a Green Card, you can tell on the back of the card > (not sure > > which > > > corner)if the person was previously a refugee because'RE' > will be > > printed > > > there. Or if s/he was granted asylum, 'AS' will be > printed on the > > back. > > > > > > I had a student say that if he had a Green Card and his > Port of > > Entry was > > > Washington, then he was automatically a resident. Nix > that one! > > Brent > > > said they do the time like everyone else. > > > > > > I hope this helps! Have a sunny long weekend! > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Virjean H. Edwards University of > Washington > > > Assistant Registrar Office of the > Registrar > > > Residency Officer 264 Schmitz Hall, > Box 355850 > > > (206)543-3290 Seattle WA > 98195-5850 > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > .