From jfgannon@cloud9.net Sun Sep 29 08:25:47 2002 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with SMTP id g8TFPkFD025372 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 08:25:46 -0700 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Sep 29 08:25:46 2002 -0700 Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with ESMTP id g8TFPjIr015218 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 08:25:46 -0700 Received: from jfgannon (203-180.dialup.cloud9.net [168.100.203.180]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C53F028BBB for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001601c267cc$f19eca20$b4cb64a8@jfgannon> From: "J.F. Gannon" To: References: <007e01c2674b$824d3020$84bf578a@cas.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: ay, ah ae oo Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:29:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > > 1. I recall vividly a classroom exercise my linguistics professor at Wash U > asked us to participate in way back in 1978 or 9. I wish I could remember > his name. He wrote these three words on the board and asked each of us, > individually, to recite them: merry, marry, Mary. He then told us whence we > each hailed and he was right every time. As in 1978, my students from the > midwest pronounce all three words exactly the same way. I have noticed a general tendency from Westerners to pronounce pen and pin without a difference. Is this found in Illinois? Do they say mins, mintis for mens mentis? Being a Yankee who > pronounces each of the three with a distinct sound, I was stunned. A Yankee? In New England a Yankee is a person of old stock, at least ostensibly old stock. At least that is how it was when I lived there and in New England I was not a Yankee. I had thought that outside New England a Yankee was anyone from New England, and in the U.K. a Yank was anyone from the U.S. Do you think of a Yankee as anyone from the North East? What are the boundaries? Could someone from New Jersey qualify? Curiously, J.F. Gannon .