From tailwind@etn.org Tue Feb 27 11:57:09 2001 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id LAA62690 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:57:05 -0800 Received: from mail10.bigmailbox.com (mail10.bigmailbox.com [209.132.220.41]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA15934 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:57:05 -0800 Received: by mail10.bigmailbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA09592; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:57:00 -0800 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:57:00 -0800 Message-Id: <200102271957.LAA09592@mail10.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-Ip: [128.95.171.189] From: "Christina Friedt" To: uwracing@u.washington.edu, rwhitacrnoah@adcomsys.net Subject: Re: Tail Between Legs? Thanks for the walk down memory lane Rob. Yeah, Montana had some hot riders a couple of years ago, Jeb, Lee, and the like. They are probably stil hard core. Lisa is going to make this season hurt and do it with a smile. She is really strong and really nice. I raced with her a couple of years ago. I don't recognize any of the other female names. I also think Lisa went to MTB nats a couple of times. This should be a good season. There's a lot of smack talk bein thrown around. Is anyone racing the early march races?? Christina >Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:16:20 -0800 >Reply-To: RWhitacrNOAH@adcomsys.net >From: Rob Whitacre >To: uwracing@u.washington.edu >Cc: cdirks@fhcrc.org, Huskies >Subject: Re: Tail Between Legs? > >Thought I would add a few comments. > >What Clarissa read was the 1st year of the MSU Cycling Team. Some Huskies may >remember the name Lee Sandvik, probably only Emerson Tongco (and you've got to >be around a while to know of Emerson), but with the support of Lee and a couple >other riders, they caused havoc at conference champs when they were in the >Tri-Cities (ugh, the Windust road race). > >Now the next year it was only 3 guys racing for MSU (we did send two guys to MTB >Nationals in Wisconsin), me, Lee, and Marcel. I think we did Frozen Flatlands, >Lee won and was later disqualified along with the majority of his field for a >centerline violation, the Lincoln Park crit was my first bike race ever, and I >think Christina's as well with her white LeMond. We also did the Pullman race >and that nasty Wawawie grade climb (32 miles of flat river road then a 5 mile >climb). The cool thing about that weekend was all the UW guys and gals had >matching uniforms and looked really professional (Laura Reed was fun to ride >with during the road race). Conference champs were in Bend, OR, and Lee and I >went down (from Bozeman) just for the crit. If you really want some history, >James Adamson, Christina and others were racing for Seattle Central; Richard >Juntunen was racing for the huskies (I think Carver was there too); Tony Korolis >flatted once during the race and then again after the race was over; Boettcher >and Paul Brown got 2nd & 4th; Rusty Beall racing for Oregon got 1st. It was a >fun weekend. > >The next season the numbers practically doubled and more and more riders, >including gals, started to ride with MSU. > >So what does all this mean besides a brief early history of the 2-time NW >Conference Champs? Below are some observations between Seattle and Montana that >I have seen. > >(1) This is MSU's 5th season being a collegiate team. Husky racing has been >around for a while, even before the days of Reed, Jacobsen, Boettcher, >Chedwiggen, Roughgarden, and they have had their high and low points. MSU has >not experienced this cycle yet. Personally, I think the huskies are slowly >coming out of a recession, are getting stronger each year, but don't have the >number of riders yet to really compete against MSU. > >(2) When you look at Seattle, the bike meca of the northwest, you wonder why >riders don't ride more collegiate races. Collegiate racing in a bike meca area >is hard because there are other, and sometimes more competitive groups to race >with, namely the USCF races. Montana doesn't have this atmosphere and especially >in the early season. USCF races in the Seattle area starts the end of >February/beginning of March. The 1st USCF race in Montana is the middle of April >and then May. But, what MSU Cycling has is an opportunity for those USCF/NORBA >racers who race during the summer to compete in early season collegiate races >(non collegiate racers usually ski till the middle of April anyway). > >(3) Montana has some of the most awesome roads and combined with very low >traffic, hard to come by in Seattle, creates numerous routes with varying >terrain. Clarissa spoke about climbing a mountain pass this weekend, around here >that's hard to do as most Seattle hills are short and the "real" mountain roads >are either closed to traffic or covered in snow (i.e., N. Cascades, Chinook >Pass, Stevens Pass, White Pass, etc.) If you want a good hill to climb on, drive >on over to Port Angeles and climb up to Hurricane Ridge, sea level to 5000+ >feet. Or take the ferry to Orcas Island and venture up Mt. Constitution, 2000+ >feet in 4.7 miles (its an awesome climb). Just riding up Madison St. every day >doesn't prepare you what climbing is all about. FYI, MSU initial road course for >our race last year was going to include 4 climbs; 470 ft in 2.5 miles, 1870 ft >in 8.5 miles, 1160 ft in 3.5 miles (average gradient of 6.3%), and 640 ft in 3.5 >miles. Its very hard to find this type of climbing around the Seattle area. >Also, MSU is at 4800 ft of elevation. Not even Stevens Pass is that high. > >(4) MSU starts their winter training race series in February and rides whenever >its dry or the snow is melted off the road. The key here is that they have a low >traffic, open, mostly flat (one little power climb), 16-18 mile course to ride >on. Try finding this in the Seattle area. When the weather is white, many riders >are riding inside or skiing. > >Now for a quick spy report. These are the riders that I know of from last year >that will probably race this season >- Dan Swanson = brother of Doug Swanson. 4th year racing with MSU. Team >president. Good climber. Member of MSU TTT team that placed 2nd at nationals >last spring. Fast climber. >- Peter Ford = 2nd year racing with MSU. Good flatlander. Won the collegiate B's >race at Snohomish last year. >- Peter Lacny = 3rd year with MSU. Classics rider. Good sprinter. (Watch out Ben >if he's in your pack). >- Stefan Reveal = 2nd year with MSU. Probably racing B's. Was strong by end of >season last year. >- Marcel VanGarderen = oldest member of team. 4th year racing w/ MSU. Member of >Holland Junior cycling team (when a kid). Excellent sprinter. Will probably only >see at close to MT races. (His son is a USCF 3-time junior national champion). >- Justin Ruzicka = 3rd year with MSU. Good all around rider. >- Debbie Borden = 2nd year with MSU. Good all around rider. Learns quickly. >- Lisa Ducharme = 3rd year with MSU. Excellent climber. Doesn't quit. >(MSU has a bunch of new riders that I don't know of so watch out for them as >well and yes Doug Swanson had graduated) > >Remember, the season is won by the most amount of points which means a large >number of racers in each of the 5 categories for conference races. > >BTW, if anyone else would like to join me for my trip to Bozeman, March 17-21, I >can take 1 more person. Thanks Justen for coming along. If you really want to >see what happens with MSU Cycling, a trip to MT would give you those answer. > >Later, >-- Rob Whitacre >(former and future MSU racer) > >Clarissa Dirks wrote: > >> For Current Racers: >> >> DO YOU WANT MOTIVATION TO TRAIN HARDER AND WIN?? IF SO, THEN READ >> ON............... >> >> While I should be doing something more constructive in lab, I begin to >> surf the net on all of my bike web links. Looked at a few parts, new >> bikes, VeloNews etc...and decide to click on the NCAA link for all of >> the other collegiate teams. Then I say to myself..."Why not see what >> the competition is up to during the winter months?" Of course I click >> on the MSU website and find that they are already racing one another on >> a weekly basis and having fun (as they should) like every other team. I >> then scrolled to a section of "memories that I'll never forget" and find >> the following passage: >> >> "Mikey, Cori, the dog, and myself driving to the tri-cities for the >> district championships. >> Seeing the former National Track Champions Washington Huskies show up >> for the race in the matching jerseys and not paying any attention to the >> new kids from Montana that had just rolled into town five hours before >> the race. Then seeing their faces when they lost the women's road race >> and lost many qualifying points in the men's division thanks to a couple >> of surly riders with makeshift jerseys from MSU. Then throwing a rod >> through the car on the way home, just outside of Missoula, having to >> sleep in the back of the car until a store opened up so we could rent a >> trailer and truck to get us back to Bozeman in time for finals that >> week." >> >> Well what do the DAWGS think of that? Check it out for yourself! >> http://members.aol.com/swanmtb/montana.html >> >> Personally, I think I'm going to go find a serious mountain pass to >> climb this weekend. Anyone interested? Oh, yeah and the part I left >> out is that Doug Swanson guy...he has graduated....good for the men eh? >> Well it seems as though he has a brother that is following in his >> cycling strokes, as he is now on the team. Lastly, they have 8 women >> that have paid their team dues for racing. SO COME ON OUT TO RIDE YOU >> FEMALE HUSKIES! PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even for one >> race to kick their butts! >> Clarissa >> >> PS. Great riding this weekend!! My memories are: "Squeeky head (Ken), >> a mouthful of sandy water from the DAWGS paceline, ten black people that >> were once white, sunshine rays on the forest roads, Goldie the >> flat-changing dog, sprints from vicious dogs, Dorittos on the carpet, >> shared meals, Justen's 10,000 push-ups, race videos, the jacuzzi, >> teaching Blake a handstand, a mouthful of Hammer Gel for my first time, >> riding with an ex-National team rider, the ocean, and smiles from ten >> faces that rode many miles in the rain and sun. "You're young and you got your health, what do you want with a job?" from the movie, Raising Arizona ------------------------------------------------------------ See http://www.DiscountAirfares.com for Lowest Airfares Worldwide Become an ETN Affiliate at http://www.etn.nl/affiliates/ .