From lockyert@mweb.co.za Sat Nov 17 22:33:59 2001 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id fAI6Xvn149764 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:33:57 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Nov 17 22:33:56 2001 -0800 Received: from laibach.mweb.co.za (laibach.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.177]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with ESMTP id fAI6Xr409997 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:33:54 -0800 Received: from ndf-dial-196-30-125-57.mweb.co.za ([196.30.125.57] helo=al40) by laibach.mweb.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 165K5n-0003MM-00 for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:02:08 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c16fed$7e1dd0a0$397d1ec4@al40> From: "Terrence Lockyer" To: "Classics List" Subject: insurance (maybe not) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:57:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Gene O'Grady wrote : Paul Millett in "Maritime loans and the structure of credit : in fourth century Athens," in Trade in the Ancient Economy, : ed. Garnsey Hopkins & Whittaker, seems to question the : idea that the maritime loans in fact constituted a form of : insurance as argued, e.g., in Finley's Sather lectures, in : part because the traders involved apparently always sailed : with their ships, "so there was always a good chance that : they would go down with it, making the question of insurance : irrelevant." I am not sure how we could know that "the traders involved ... always sailed with their ships", but even if they did, this particular objection would not be insurmountable. Survival of shipwreck is a feature of Greco-Roman literature from the *Odyssey* onwards, and for the principal characters of the novels becomes something of an occupational hazard, so it would not seem to have been considered inherently impossible. At Petronius, *Satyrica* 103, the shaving of heads apparently recalls "naufragorum ultimum votum", and at Juvenal 12.81-2, sailors shave their heads and relate their escape, so there may be evidence of specific beliefs concerning omens of, and practices related to, survival of shipwreck (although Michele Ronnick has argued, at *Scholia* ns 4 [1995] 105-7, that the sailors in Juvenal are worshippers of Isis and that their shaven heads relate to that, rather than specifically to a narrow escape from shipwreck). Returning to reality, it is possible to imagine a variety of circumstances in which a ship and its cargo might be lost, but not (all of) its crew, such as running aground or loss in coastal waters. I seem to recall that many ancient vessels, unlike modern ones, would be more likely to break up on the surface, rather than sink, and I should think that would also increase the chances of survival, especially close to shore, as would sailing in numbers. The generals at Arginousai were blamed not for losing ships, but for failing to rescue survivors of their loss, so that even in a battle situation, there seems to have been some expectation that the shipwrecked might be saved. A "good chance" of going down with the ship is not a certainty, and maritime loans may well have had some of the effect of insurance in mitigating the calamity of shipwreck by spreading the risk and not compounding the loss of ship and/or cargo with substantial financial loss or potential ruin (which must surely have been a real possibility had the non-repayment clause not been attached). Terrence Lockyer Johannesburg, South Africa .