From bateson@almaak.usc.edu Sat Jan 30 11:49:48 1999 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.1+UW98.09/8.9.1+UW98.09) with ESMTP id LAA14906 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:49:48 -0800 Received: from almaak.usc.edu (almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.166]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA20663 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bateson@localhost) by almaak.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) id LAA28884; Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36B359DF.3361@cloud9.net> References: <3.0.5.32.19990127195907.007a3290@mailhost.jlc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: classics@u.washington.edu From: Carol Bateson Subject: Re: immaculate conception There is a wonderful book on the construction of St. Anne imagery and biography that is independent of any mention in the four canonical gospels. The book is called "Interpreting Cultural Symbols: Saint Anne in Late Medieval Society". It is edited by Kathleen Ashley and Pamela Sheingorn. It is published by the University of Georgia. Carol Bateson USC >Rainer Thiel wrote: >> >> At 22:11 Uhr +0100 on 28.01.1999, J.F. Gannon wrote: >> >> > I don't know any references but 'immaculate conception' is used in >> > reference to Mary's conception in Elizabeth's wonb, not Jesus' >> > conception in Mary's. >> >> Yes indeed. Except that the name the tradition gives to Mary's mother is >> Anna, not Elizabeth. For anyone interested, the >> >> Catechismus Catholicae Ecclesiae, Citta' del Vaticano: Libreria >> editrice Vaticana, 1997 >> >> states par. 491: >> >> << >> Saeculorum decursu, Ecclesia conscia facta est Mariam, a Deo >> <>,[139] inde a sua conceptione esse redemptam. Immacula- >> tae Conceptionis dogma, anno 1854 a Summo Pontifice Pio IX procla- >> matum, hoc confitetur: >> >> <> fuisse singulari omnipotentis Dei gratia et privilegio, intuitu >>meritorum >> Christi Iesu Salvatoris humani generis, ab omni originalis culpae labe >> praeservatam immunem>>.[140] >> >> [139] cf. Lc 1, 28. >> [140] Pius IX, Bulla ~Ineffabilis Deus~: DS 2803. >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >>It does, and I am duly chastened. I must have mixed up Mary's mother Ann >>with her cousin--I hope I have it right this time--Elizabeth, the mother >>of John the Baptist. > >JFG .