From AlvaresJ@Mail.Montclair.edu Fri Mar 10 15:28:55 2000 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA42354 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:28:51 -0800 Received: from mail.montclair.edu (enterprise.montclair.edu [130.68.1.21] (may be forged)) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA05778 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:28:50 -0800 Received: from mail.montclair.edu ([130.68.50.82]) by mail.montclair.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA53DE for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:28:48 -0500 Message-ID: <38C98511.D051D0DC@mail.montclair.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:28:20 -0500 From: "Jean Alvares" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Audiotapes -- and other technologies References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While the idea of making audio tapes is fine, as would be a CD ROM, the technology exists to store sound files easily on web pages. For example, at http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~ancgreek/ancient_greek_start.html there is pronunciation guide to Greek, associated with Dr. Mastronarde's Greek primer, which includes audio files of dozens of words, spoken both by men and women. Such a web page would allow anybody with web access and the software to play sound files. I'm sure it would not be hard to store these files in MP3 format so that they could be played on one of the portable MP3 players. Another example of a site using such a technology is found at http://www.dl.ket.org/latin1/stories/ where a large number of stories from Ecce Romani can be listened to in Latin and downloaded. As many of you know, I'm ever so gradually trying to improve my Javascripts for Learning Greek page (belated thanks to Helma Dik for pointing out an error in accent which I've not had time to correct.), and to creating more internet resources for Greek. If any out there are willing to create a high quality (and fairly short) recording that you feel would be useful to help your students to learn Greek, I'd be happy as an experiment to convert these to files that could be played by RealPlayer and accessed via a web page. -- Jean Alvares Helma Dik wrote: > Donna Wilson concludes: > > > >If someone has made, or would be interested in making and marketing, audio > >tapes for a standard elementary Greek text-book, and probably a computer > >scannable-vocalizable (?) version of the text, think it would be a wonderful > >service. And it would be a service not just to the students, but to > >departments by inviting many new and wonderful students to take Greek who > >may have been otherwise hesitant to try it. > > Actually, I think it would be a service to students in general, > regardless of special needs, to have an audio version of paradigms > etc. I think one of our graduate students told me that at Cornell, > ?Piero Pucci had recorded mi-verbs for them. But you'd want a CD ROM, > so that you can choose the particular paradigm you need - and go from > aorist to present or indicative to subjunctive or active to middle at > will - unless you want to go jogging for an hour and have all Greek > verbs recited to you:-) > > Just for starters, maybe a swinging rendition of the principal parts > of 100 important verbs? > > Maybe our friends at Perseus can invest a million dollars in Greek > pronunciation software (actually it should be relatively easy because > Greek spelling makes more sense than English spelling does)? Since > they have a parser already, I can imagine a "Gimme the paradigm" > button with a speech synthesis module going through a whole paradigm, > with, preferably, awkward gaps between prefixes, stems and endings.. > > HD > Helma Dik > Department of Classics > University of Chicago > helmadik@midway.uchicago.edu > http://humanities.uchicago.edu/classics/ -- ================================================= ================================================= Jean Alvares Department of Classics and General Humanities, Montclair State University, Upper Montclair, NJ 07043 (O) (973)-655-5292 (H) (973)-778-4065 My homepage http://www.chss.montclair.edu/classics/alvares.shtml MSU Department of Classics and General Humanities Home Page http://www.chss.montclair.edu/classics/classics.html Petronian society ancient novel page http://www.chss.montclair.edu/classics/petron/PSNNOVEL.HTML My main javascript page: http://chss2.montclair.edu/classics/_private/javascript/javascripts.html My javascript Greek exercises http://chss2.montclair.edu/classics/_private/javascript/Greek/greekjava.html ================================================= ================================================= .