From jvsickle@brooklyn.cuny.edu Thu Mar 1 04:54:08 2001 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id EAA79668 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:54:07 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA23575 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:54:07 -0800 Received: from oemcomputer.bcnet ([12.84.96.69]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010301125402.XZV25433.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@oemcomputer.bcnet> for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:54:02 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010301074354.00a8e5a0@apollo.brooklyn.cuny.edu> X-Sender: jvsickle@apollo.brooklyn.cuny.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:44:31 -0500 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: John Van Sickle Subject: Re: cassius allusion & dative of agent In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed so rarity of usage well expresses rarity of situation: language stretches to capture life. At 2/28/01, you wrote: >As long as we are beating this passage to death, let me add that >"captus uni" seems to me an example of dative of agent: "when he was >taken by Caesar all by his lonesome." The dative of agent with perfect >and pluperfect tenses is quite normal in Greek and from there was imitated >in serious Latin poetry. Gildersleeve's note (par. 354, note 2 [p. 226]) >seems right: "This Dative is rare in early Latin, rare, if ever, in >Caesar, not uncommon in Cicero. But it is much liked by the poets and by >some prose writers, notably by Tacitus." > >Christian Kopff >University of Colorado Boulder >kopff@spot.colorado.edu John Babcock Van Sickle 249 East 32nd Street, New York, NY 10016-6305 212-689-5235 or fax, 689-5260 | 631-329-2134 .