From jmpfund@bgnet.bgsu.edu Fri Sep 28 10:44:17 2001 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.08) with SMTP id f8SHiDN116242 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:44:13 -0700 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Sep 28 10:44:13 2001 -0700 Received: from smtp01.bgsu.edu (smtp01.bgsu.edu [129.1.5.17]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.08) with ESMTP id f8SHi7U13875 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:44:08 -0700 Received: from [129.1.105.78] (dhcp-105-78.bgsu.edu [129.1.105.78]) by smtp01.bgsu.edu (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f8SHi2d09545 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jmpfund@mailstore.bgsu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:44:17 -0400 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: "James M. Pfundstein" Subject: Re: Not even TAN though possibly a Greek connection Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 12:59 PM -0400 9/28/01, Diana Wright wrote: >I know of no one else to whom I can turn . . . > >Will someone refresh my memory with the essential narrative & winning >answer to "Perdicaris alive or Rasuli dead"? > >DW The story is from Theodore Roosevelt's presidency. Raisuli [sic], a Moroccan, had a habit of kidnapping Europeans for ransom. In 1904 he abducted a guy named Ion Perdicaris, and TR had John Hay, the Secretary of State, telegraph to the Consul-General at Tangier, "[We want either] Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead." Perdicaris may not have been an American citizen, and a deal for his return may have been made before Roosevelt sent his message, but it made a nice splash in the papers, which was useful for TR's ongoing re-election campaign. For what it's worth, I found this apparently scholarly reference on-line: Tyler Dennett, _John Hay_ (N. Y., 1933), pp. 401-2. Henry Pringle, _Theodore Roosevelt_ (N. Y., 1931), pp. 388-9 http://www.ukans.edu/~libsite/wwi-www/investor/Staley04.html but I couldn't verify it, as all my American history stuff is at home, and I am e-writing from my office. JMP("Perambulans leniter") .