From vwheeler@bcc.ctc.edu Thu Jun 18 16:58:53 1998 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA28026 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:58:53 -0700 Received: from email1.bcc.ctc.edu (email1.bcc.ctc.edu [168.156.32.102]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA11842 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:58:52 -0700 Received: by email1.bcc.ctc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:58:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: Vicki Wheeler To: "'residency@u.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: Expired E2 Visas Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:58:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you, everyone. > ---------- > From: Joseph M. St.Hilaire[SMTP:saint@admsec.wwu.edu] > Reply To: residency@u.washington.edu > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 4:36 PM > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > Subject: RE: Expired E2 Visas > > ***We have our computer flag set to treat E-2 students differently than > regular residents because we make them prove at least once a year that > they still have the E-2 status. So, yes, if a student's E-2 status > expires before gaining true resident status, s/he would have to lapse to > non-res status. > > Joe St.Hilaire > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Peggy Morgan wrote: > > > Once last question, what happens if their E-2 visa expires after they > > have been here the 12 months and have been granted resident status? If > > we are made aware of this, are they coded a non-resident until they have > > changed their status to a permanent resident? Then do they have to wait > > the 12 month period again before being eligible for resident status? > > Thanks. > > Peggy Morgan > > Admissions Program Support Supervisor > > Green River Community College > > 253-833-9111, ext. 2513 > > pmorgan@grcc.ctc.edu > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Virjean Edwards[SMTP:vedwards@u.washington.edu] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 1:20 PM > > > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > > > Subject: RE: Expired E2 Visas > > > > > > People with E-2 visas are eligible for residency after they have lived > > > in > > > the state for 12 months and maintained the usual ties with the state. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Virjean H. Edwards University of Washington > > > Assistant Registrar Office of the Registrar > > > Residency Officer 264 Schmitz Hall, Box 355850 > > > (206)543-3290 Seattle WA 98195-5850 > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Peggy Morgan wrote: > > > > > > > Are you saying that anyone on an E-2 visa is eligible for resident > > > > status as long as their visa has not expired, or they are eligible > > > after > > > > they have been here 12 months and have the documents to support it? > > > > > > > > Thanks for the clarification. > > > > > > > > Peggy Morgan > > > > Admissions Program Support Supervisor > > > > Green River Community College > > > > 253-833-9111, ext. 2513 > > > > pmorgan@grcc.ctc.edu > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > From: Joseph M. St.Hilaire[SMTP:saint@admsec.wwu.edu] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 11:39 AM > > > > > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > > > > > Subject: Re: Expired E2 Visas > > > > > > > > > > ***Once the E-2 visa expires, the student loses resident status. > > > (I > > > > > think > > > > > you may know that a student on a E-2 visa loses resident status > > > when > > > > > s/he > > > > > turns 21 as well.) Those petitions and applications for > > > extensions, > > > > > etc., > > > > > don't cut it. The only hope he has is for granting of permanent > > > > > resident > > > > > status (green card). > > > > > > > > > > It seems that there are thousands (millions?) of persons who are > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > country illegally due to expired visas. INS can't possible chase > > > them > > > > > all > > > > > down, round em up, and boot em out on the day their visas expire. > > > > > Perhaps > > > > > you recall the case of a year ago--the young man from Syria or > > > Lebanon > > > > > who > > > > > managed to get into Canada (legally), and in Canada was arrested a > > > > > couple > > > > > times for some crime, snuck across the border to Bellingham, was > > > > > tossed > > > > > back into Canada, snuck back to Bellingham, was arrested again > > > here, > > > > > but > > > > > then Canada refused to take him back, so the district court in > > > Seattle > > > > > gave him 60 days (!) to leave the country. So he shuffled off to > > > New > > > > > York > > > > > City where he started building bombs, and fortunately was caught > > > > > before > > > > > any bombs went off. > > > > > > > > > > Joe St.Hilaire > > > > > Western > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Vicki Wheeler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have a student applying for resident status as a dependent. > > > He > > > > > states in > > > > > > a letter that his family's E2 visa status has expired. He has > > > > > provided > > > > > > copies of INS "Notice of Action" forms for his father and > > > himself. > > > > > The form > > > > > > for his father states: "PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER" and > > > the > > > > > form for > > > > > > the student states: "APPLICATION TO EXTEND/CHANGE NONIMMIGRANT > > > > > STATUS". > > > > > > Both are valid from 10/16/96 until 10/16/97. > > > > > > > > > > > > The immigrant/nonimmigrant issues continue to confuse me. If > > > the > > > > > student > > > > > > and his parents cannot provide documentation beyond the 10/16/97 > > > > > date, what > > > > > > exactly is their status? I am assuming that the student is not > > > > > eligible for > > > > > > resident tuition because the visas are expired. Of course, you > > > know > > > > > what > > > > > > they say when one assumes something! > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to your assistance.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vicki Wheeler > > > > > > Bellevue Community College > > > > > > 3000 Landerholm Circle SE > > > > > > Bellevue, WA 98007-6484 > > > > > > (425) 641-2205 > > > > > > e-mail: vwheeler@bcc.ctc.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .