From amahoney@perseus.tufts.edu Sat Jan 27 12:44:38 2001 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id MAA101452 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:44:37 -0800 Received: from tantalos.perseus.tufts.edu (IDENT:root@tantalos.perseus.tufts.edu [130.64.2.169]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA22044 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:44:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (amahoney@localhost) by tantalos.perseus.tufts.edu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA25685 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:44:36 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:44:36 -0500 (EST) From: Anne Mahoney To: classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: CAMWS Award for Outstanding Publication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE It's great that CAMWS is rewarding good *first* books, and that they're explicitly including textbooks. I agree with Ross, though, that it would be wonderful if CAMWS explicitly said that "book" does not have to mean a printed volume. Perhaps the awards committee already intend to consider on-line editions as well as print; maybe they figure this is too obvious to need pointing out, though I'm afraid it's not yet. =20 I'm not saying that any fluffy little web page for a course should be considered the equivalent of a book and entered into consideration for the CAMWS award. I'm thinking of substantial work (the "weight" of a book), in a peer-reviewed forum, with due attention to archiving and permanence (some of which is the on-line publisher's concern, but choice of publisher is the author's concern), and making good use of the medium (not just an on-screen photocopy). I'm sure everyone on the list has some examples; consider Sean Redmond's Ovid bibliography (http://www.jiffycomp.com/smr/rob/ovidbib.php3), Bill Thayer's Lacus Curtius (http://www.ukans.edu/history/index/europe/ancient_rome/E/Roman/home.html), or Ross's own Diotima (http://www.stoa.org/diotima). One thing I hear fairly frequently, as a Stoa co-editor and someone generally interested in on-line structured publication, is "I want to do on-line work, but things that count for tenure have to come first." Many of us recognize that good work, with the seal of approval that comes from competent peer review, is good work whether it's a printed book, a performance, a painting -- or an on-line text. One way to help other scholars recognize this is for organizations like CAMWS to include on-line texts in their awards, and to state publicly that they're doing so. I also eagerly await the first APA Goodwin award, or AIA Wiseman award, to an on-line text. --Anne Mahoney http://www.stoa.org/~mahoney On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Ross Scaife wrote: > I originally sent this reply to Greg Daugherty=B9s post about the CAMWS > publication prize just to Greg himself but decided later it=B9s the kind = of > thing that really needs public airing; the more discussion the better: >=20 >=20 > That new award looks pretty retro to me, unfortunately. What's CAMWS doi= ng > to single out and honor those who develop and publish materials (by no me= ans > limited to the monograph or textbook format, either) on-line, where far > greater numbers of people can actually gain ready access to them and read > them? As co-editor of the Stoa Consortium I could happily produce a long > list of worthy recipients of such an honor, several of them members of > CAMWS. I regret that an organization to which I have long paid dues and > faithfully made other forms of contribution seems so inclined to police a > narrow, arbitrary and frankly pretty anachronistic limit on the definitio= n > of publication. >=20 >=20 > Ross Scaife > www.stoa.org >=20 > > CAMWS is pleased to announce a new annual award, the CAMWS Award for > > Outstanding Publication, which will recognize a distinguished first boo= k > > published by a member of CAMWS during the past three years. The award o= f > > $500 plus a certificate will be presented for the first time at the > > convention in Austin, Texas in April 2002. Both monographs and textbook= s > > are eligible; the single criterion is excellence as judged by the commi= ttee > > appointed by the President for this purpose. Nominations (including > > self-nominations) are strongly encouraged. The committee aims to consid= er > > all eligible books, and so wants to know about every member of CAMWS wh= o > > has published his or her first book within the last three years (for th= is > > year's deliberations, that means in 1998 or later). Please direct all > > correspondence to the chair of the committee, John F. Miller, Departmen= t of > > Classics, 401 New Cabell Hall, University of Virginia Charlottesville, = VA > > 22903 (jfm4j@virginia.edu). The other members of the committee are > > Elizabeth Belfiore (University of Minnesota), William Race (University = of > > North Carolina at Chapel Hill), and Marilyn Skinner (University of Ariz= ona). > >=20 > > John F. Miller=20 > > Department of Classics > > 401 New Cabell Hall > > University of Virginia > > Charlottesville, VA 22903 > > FAX: 804-924-3062; Phone: 804-924-3008 > > jfm4j@virginia.edu > >=20 > >=20 > > Gregory N. Daugherty EMail: gdaugher@rmc.edu > > Department of Classics Phone: 804-752-7275 CAMWS: 804-752-3732 > > Randolph-Macon College Fax: 804-752-7231 CAMWS: 804-752-3757 > > P.O. Box 5005 http://www.rmc.edu/~gdaugher/camwshp.html > > Ashland VA 23005-5505 http://www.rmc.edu/academic/departments/clas/ > >=20 >=20 .