From reedy@Macalester.edu Sun Nov 4 04:41:04 2001 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id fA4Cf3n105568 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 04:41:03 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Nov 04 04:41:02 2001 -0800 Received: from mail.Macalester.edu ([141.140.1.16]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with ESMTP id fA4Cf0B15680 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 04:41:01 -0800 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.mail.Macalester.edu by mail.Macalester.edu (PMDF V6.1 #38944) id <0GMA00L010F6JL@mail.Macalester.edu> for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 06:37:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from [141.140.45.29] (art29.art.macalester.edu [141.140.45.29]) by mail.Macalester.edu (PMDF V6.1 #38944) with ESMTP id <0GMA00L3U0F6AC@mail.Macalester.edu> for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 06:37:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 06:48:53 -0800 From: Jerry Reedy Subject: Re: history what if In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20011102190809.00acc4e0@idirect.com> To: classics@u.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In his note of 11/2/01 David Meadows, following McClellan & Dorn's SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGYU IN WORLD HISTORY, says that "Aristotle...had no institutional affiliation." According to Copleston's HIST. OF PHIL and the O.C.D. Aristotle became a member of Plato's academy in 368/7 at the age of 17 and remained a member for 20 years, i.e. until Plato's death in 348/7. He then left Athens ("Speusippus, Plato's nephew, had become head of the Academy and with him Aristotle didn't see eye to eye...") Aristotle then went to the Troad where "he founded a branch of the Academy." In 335 he returned to Athens and founded a school which came to be known as the Lyceum which he directed for twelve years (until Alexander died in 323 when he left Athens lest the Athenians "sin twice against philosophy.") Thus, except for the time Aristotle spent on Lesbos (about two years) and the time he spent in Pella tutoring Alexander (about seven years---343/2 to 336/5), it appears to me that he did indeed have "institutional affiliation" and also that his most important work was done at one institution or the other. .