From kolb@ucla.edu Fri Mar 10 01:27:03 2000 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA56108 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:27:01 -0800 Received: from caracal.noc.ucla.edu (caracal.noc.ucla.edu [169.232.10.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA19852 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:27:01 -0800 Received: from kolb (remote1.humnet.ucla.edu [128.97.208.81]) by caracal.noc.ucla.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA07654 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:26:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.20000310011731.00b2e1d0@pop.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: kolb@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:27:34 -0800 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: Jack Kolb Subject: Re: Art and Literature we've *learned* to love In-Reply-To: <200003092335.SAA00788@ccat.sas.upenn.edu> References: <38C8305C.C89E1BDA@mail.montclair.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A wonderul topic, and one whose responses have been wonderful. Again, I'm an interloper here, so my responses won't be classical (except that I've had the chance to reread the Odyssey--in the Penguin translation: I don't remember the translator, alas--some years ago). I went through a period of reaction against Matthew Arnold, having had him set up as the ideal of my father's (though not of my father) generation. He's a narrow-minded academic. But I guess he's not guilty on other scores. I've grown to love more and more Johnson and other 18th century writers, simply for their common sense. By contrast my Victorians seem more and more doctrinaire and "enthusiastic," especially about matters moral and religious. I can't teach D. H. Lawrence any more, except for Lady Chatterley's Lover (and not because it's so explicit, but because it's relatively free of Lawrence's pompous deliverances about human beings). I've thought about teaching Women in Love (which I taught many years ago), but when I begin to read its first pages, I simply can't stop laughing. This is not a good sign. Fortunately I don't have to teach much of any author I don't like; fortunately I like most, on their own merits (and demerits). Jack Kolb Dept. of English, UCLA kolb@ucla.edu .