From sesar@noho.com Sun Mar 9 03:09:51 2003 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h29B9lCK061418 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 03:09:48 -0800 Received: from valinet.com (mbs.valinet.com [208.171.246.3]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.03/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h29B9jCc028993 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 03:09:45 -0800 Received: from noho.com (206-15-153-235.dialup.ziplink.net [206.15.153.235]) by valinet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28102 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 06:09:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3E6B213D.6CF192B0@noho.com> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 06:10:56 -0500 From: Carl Sesar Reply-To: sesar@noho.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mel Gibson Asked to Reconsider Jesus Film References: <20030309083115.LRLE19785.amsfep13-int.chello.nl@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One truth in all this, one everybody knows, is that the deicide charge kills Jews. j.vanaken@chello.nl wrote: > The truth? Truth in a historic or in a religious sense, that's the question. Is there really any evidence that Jesus really existed? > > jva > > > > > van: Jack Kolb > > datum: 2003/03/09 zo AM 07:51:47 CET > > aan: classics@u.washington.edu > > onderwerp: Mel Gibson Asked to Reconsider Jesus Film > > > > "What concerns me, however is when I read that the film's purpose is to > > undo the changes made by Vatican II." > > > > March 8, 2003 > > > > LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A prominent Jewish leader on Friday asked actor > > Mel Gibson to make certain that his new film on the last 12 hours in the > > life of Christ does not portray the Jews as collectively responsible for > > the crucifixion. > > > > Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean and founder of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, said > > he was concerned because an article to be published in the New York Times > > Magazine portrays Gibson as a traditionalist Catholic opposed to the > > reforms of Vatican II. > > > > Heir said, "Obviously, no one has seen 'The Passion' and I certainly have > > no problem with Mel Gibson's right to believe as he sees fit or make any > > movie he wants to. What concerns me, however is when I read that the > > film's purpose is to undo the changes made by Vatican II." > > > > He said that Vatican conclave was convened to deal with several critical > > issues, including the rejection of the notion that the Jews were > > collectively responsible for the death of Jesus. > > > > "If the new film seeks to undo Vatican II ... it would unleash more of the > > scurrilous charges of deicide directed against the Jewish people, which > > took the Catholic Church 20 centuries to finally repudiate," he said. > > > > Gibson is completing the self-financed film on the last 12 hours in the > > life of Christ and a friend of the Gibson family is quoted as telling the > > Times that Gibson will graphically portray the intense suffering of > > Christ, "perhaps as no film has done before." Gibson is directing the > > film. > > > > The friend, Gary Giuffre, a traditionalist Catholic, also said that the > > film will lay the blame for the death of Christ where it belongs -- a > > reference that some traditionalists believe means the Jewish authorities > > who presided over his trial, the article said. > > > > A spokesman for Gibson had no comment, saying he had not seen the article. > > Sources close to the actor said Gibson's religious views and those of his > > family were known. > > > > Discussing his film in a recent TV interview, Gibson was asked whether his > > account might particularly upset Jews. He said, "It may. It's not meant > > to. I think it's meant to just tell the truth." > > > > .