From JBurchell@scc.spokane.cc.wa.us Fri Feb 12 11:29:15 1999 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA29762 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:29:14 -0800 Received: from ctc.ctc.edu (root@ctc.ctc.edu [134.39.2.118]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA28565 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:29:14 -0800 Received: from scc16_exchange.scc.spokane.cc.wa.us (scc.spokane.cc.wa.us [134.39.173.22]) by ctc.ctc.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA02418 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by scc.spokane.cc.wa.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:38:26 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Burchell, JoAnn" To: "'residency@u.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:38:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On the back of the reply (Notice of Action, Form I797C) that INS sends to the person making application to adjust to permanent resident status (this instance a refugee applying for their green card) - they state that the situation is not a sure thing. Just because they apply, it does not mean that they will receive their green card. I actually found the form. It states the following: Under the heading of general: "The filing of an application or petition does not in itself allow a person to enter the United States and does not confer any other right or benefit." So I don't see how just being here a year allows them to be reclassified as a resident - or am I missing something? Jo Ann Burchell * Senior Secretary and Residency Classification Officer Spokane Community College 509-533-7019 jburchell@scc.spokane.cc.wa.us -----Original Message----- From: Vicki Wheeler [SMTP:vwheeler@bcc.ctc.edu] Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:56 AM To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum JoAnn, I agree with you and here at BCC we do accept the I-551 also because it verifies that the refugee has applied for change of status and been approved. What is at issue here is whether refugee students who have not applied for green cards are eligible for resident status after 12 months, yes? > ---------- > From: Burchell, JoAnn[SMTP:JBurchell@scc.spokane.cc.wa.us] > Reply To: residency@u.washington.edu > Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:59 AM > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum > > I think if they have their passports stamped with: > > "Processed for I-551 > Temporary Evidence of > Lawful Admission for > Permanent Residence > Valid Until (date stamped in) > Employment Authorized > > I have this as an example that I inherited with my residency information. > It goes on to say that "Such persons are lawful permanent residents and > are > awaiting the issuance of their permanent resident alien card. These > aliens > are NOT to be considered temporary residents. The expiration date on some > alien cards should have no bearing with determining status under the State > of Washington residency statutes." > > This information came from INS. > > SCC honors this stamp. If they have this stamped in their visa; they're a > refugee; and they've done all the other requirements - we give them > residency. > > > Jo Ann Burchell * > Senior Secretary and > Residency Classification Officer > Spokane Community College > 509-533-7019 > jburchell@scc.spokane.cc.wa.us > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tika Esler [SMTP:tesler@bcc.ctc.edu] > Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:19 AM > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > Subject: RE: asylee,refugee,political asylum > > I almost hate to bring this up, because Virjean did such a nice > clean job of > explaining the difference between the categories, BUT I gotta do it! > > It seems to me that the INS can define these categories for us, but > that > they can't make the statement that we don't need a green card to > shift a > student from the "refugee tuition status" to resident. Wouldn't > that be an > AG call? > > I don't propse asking the AG, but should we not all agree that we > keep the > student in the refugee status category until they can provide the > green > card? Am I way off on this one? > > You should know by now that I take the minimalist approach when > possible and > even advocate the changing to a more lenient timeline to determine > residency > for community college tuition purposes, so I am usually not the > conservative > one, BUT this seems a bit iffy to me. > > Talk to me, I'm listening! > Tika A. Esler > Associate Dean of Enrollment Services > Bellevue Community College > (425) 641-2205 > tesler@bcc.ctc.edu > > > > ---------- > > From: Virjean Edwards[SMTP:vedwards@u.washington.edu] > > Reply To: residency@u.washington.edu > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 3:28 PM > > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > > Subject: asylee,refugee,political asylum > > > > Hi All > > > > I finally got in touch with Brent Shore and I think I understand > what he > > said. How's that for confidence! > > > > Refugee: These people are granted refugee status outside the USA, > they get > > a residency waiver for tuition purposes in their first year. They > are > > eligible to apply for resident alien status after living in the US > for one > > year, but there are only 10,000 spots available per year for this > status > > so many have to wait longer. They can apply for > residency-for-tuition > > purposes after the first year--permanent residence card not > required as > > long as they the have the approved refugee status. > > > > Asylee: These people are granted refugee status in the US! Their > status > > is the same as the refugee, the difference is that the refugee is > approved > > outside the US and the asylee gets approval while living in the > US. He > > considers asylees the same as refugess once they are approved for > asylum. > > No green card is required for them to get residency for tuition > purposes, > > provided they have approved asylum and they have lived here the 12 > months, > > etc.. > > > > Apparently, if someone says that s/he was initially a refugee and > s/he now > > has a Green Card, you can tell on the back of the card (not sure > which > > corner)if the person was previously a refugee because'RE' will be > printed > > there. Or if s/he was granted asylum, 'AS' will be printed on the > back. > > > > I had a student say that if he had a Green Card and his Port of > Entry was > > Washington, then he was automatically a resident. Nix that one! > Brent > > said they do the time like everyone else. > > > > I hope this helps! Have a sunny long weekend! > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Virjean H. Edwards University of Washington > > Assistant Registrar Office of the Registrar > > Residency Officer 264 Schmitz Hall, Box 355850 > > (206)543-3290 Seattle WA 98195-5850 > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > .