From jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu Sun Jul 8 15:55:34 2001 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f68MtX083470 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 15:55:34 -0700 Received: from ccat.sas.upenn.edu (CCAT.SAS.UPENN.EDU [128.91.200.226]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f68MtXX05200 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 15:55:33 -0700 Received: (from jod@localhost) by ccat.sas.upenn.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f68MskM27497 for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (James J. O'Donnell) Message-Id: <200107082254.f68MskM27497@ccat.sas.upenn.edu> Subject: Re: Christians Eaten by Lions To: classics@u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 18:54:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <016f01c10801$078aa200$c7972140@wagonlanding> from "Mike Sullivan" at Jul 8, 2001 05:55:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yep, no lions, no Colosseum. Jim O'Donnell Classics, U. of Penn jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu Mike Sullivan wrote: > > But wasn't that in North Africa, so not the Collosseum? > > Mike Sullivan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James J. O'Donnell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 4:28 PM > Subject: Re: Christians Eaten by Lions > > > > have a look at the Passio Perpetuae et Felicitatis, sec. 18-21, the end: > > wild beasts but no lions, but definitely Christians. > > > > Jim O'Donnell > > Classics, U. of Penn > > jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu > > > > David Meadows wrote: > > > > > > At 02:42 PM 08/07/2001 -0400, you wrote: > > > >A little help please. Last night at a dinner party I bobbled the > "Christians > > > >eaten by lions in the Colosseum" discussion. Truth? Fact? Timing? > Setting? > > > >Can someone please provide me with a canned answer to this and then Al > can > > > >put it in his Big Book. I am sure I will have more requests like this > in the > > > >near future. > > > > > > > > > FWIW, I've been trying to figure this one out myself; there are quite a > few > > > sites on the web, e.g., which claim the popular belief has no historical > > > evidence to back it up (or rather, they were done in at the Circus > > > Maximus), e.g.: > > > > > > http://www.kent.wednet.edu/curriculum/soc_studies/rome/Colosseum.html > > > http://www.garethpatterson.com/Colosseum/colosseum.htm > > > http://www.epinions.com/content_20970376836 > > > http://www.baptiststandard.com/2000/5_29/pages/cyber.html > > > > http://dest.travelocity.com/DestGuides/0,1840,TRAVELOCITY%7C2161%7C3%7C1%7C2 > 29336%7Cattraction_id%7C26895,00.html > > > http://www.williston.k12.nd.us/larsen/Unit7%20Religion/Rel43.htm > > > http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/9923/italy.htm > > > > > > So perhaps a rewriting of Dr. J's question might be "When did the > popular > > > belief about Christians and lions and the Colosseum start?" > > > > > > dm > > > > > > .