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From: Owen Cramer <OCramer@ColoradoCollege.edu>
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Subject: RE: Casualty Aversion
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:18:54 -0700 
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BTW, OC, do you have a reference for the Beziers quote?  Or anyone else?

As Gene O'Grady pointed out on the list last April
<http://omega.cohums.ohio-state.edu:8080/hyper-lists/classics-l/01-05-01/001
2.html> it's Caesarius of Heisterbach, Distinctio Quinta cap. 21. It doesn't
turn out to be the Bishop of Beziers, but "Arnoldus Abbas Cisterciensis,
postea Archiepiscopus Narbonnensis." The quote is this: "Cognoscentes ex
confessionibus illorum catholicos cum haereticis esse permixtos, dixerunt
Abbati: Quid faciemus, domine? Non possumus discernere inter bonos et malos.
Timens tam Abbas quam reliqui, ne tantum timore mortis se catholicos
simularent, et post ipsorum abcessum iterum ad perfidiam redirent, fertur
dixisse: Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius." 
Owen Cramer


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