From dlupher@ups.edu Thu Mar 9 10:20:52 2000 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA45472 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:20:51 -0800 Received: from mail.ups.edu (mail.ups.edu [192.124.98.111]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA09182 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:20:50 -0800 Received: from [10.80.1.53] (howarthdhcp53.ups.edu [10.80.1.53]) by mail.ups.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA31513 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:20:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38C7DAC2.11C997C2@mailhost.chi.ameritech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:22:36 -0800 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: David Lupher Subject: Re: Charondas (+ "meal-tub" query) Jeffrey Gibson asks: >Can anyone fill me in on the identity of Charondas Nomographus? [snip] See Michael Gargarin's entry on him in OCD3. He was a lawgiver for his native Catana, Rhegium, etc., late 6C (probably). See Aristotle Politics 1274a&b. Aristotle believed that his main claim to fame was the invention of suits for false witness. But when I think of Charondas (in those rare moments I am not genuflecting before the shrine of St. James [sc. Joyce]), I think of his superb definition of the oikos: homosipuoi, "meal-tub-mates" (Ar. Pol. 1252b). But wait: after all these years I have to confess that I'm just a bit fuzzy on what the heck a "meal-tub" (sipuh) was. What did it look like? How was it used? Funny, I don't seem to recall anything about "meal-tubs" in "Courtesans and Fishcakes." David Lupher Classics Dept. Univ. of Puget Sound .