From mcmahon@mail.lemoyne.edu Thu Oct 10 12:12:46 2002 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with SMTP id g9AJCVFD146692 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:12:32 -0700 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Oct 10 12:12:31 2002 -0700 Received: from kiwi.lemoyne.edu (kiwi.lemoyne.edu [192.231.122.6]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.09) with ESMTP id g9AJCUIr018540 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:12:30 -0700 Received: from mail.lemoyne.edu ([192.168.250.76]) by kiwi.lemoyne.edu; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:15:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3DA5D110.1781FD45@mail.lemoyne.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:12:16 -0400 From: "John M. McMahon" Reply-To: mcmahon@mail.lemoyne.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sen. Byrd References: <9F7DC86A68443649B37082E74A0507F04F888A@exchange-a.ColoradoCollege.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Owen Cramer wrote: > > Has anyone noted (Byrd hasn't, I think) the Hanno : Hannibal = G. H. W. > Bush : G. W. Bush parallel, on the vengeful obsession front? The result > there was that a powerful empire, dependent on hired troops and devoted to > the interests of a commercial elite, overextended itself against an enemy > it didn't understand, and failed. Yeah, but this really is more about pipelines than bloodlines ... although it's always handy to throw in some substrate of rhetoric drawn from the mindset of American folk mythology. You know, on the level of the intergenerational animosity of the McCoys and Hatfields. That's just about where we're at these days in a national conversation in which only 50% are involved once every four years. John McMahon LMC .