From wskinner@fast.net Fri Jun 25 02:53:50 1999 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA17154 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 02:53:50 -0700 Received: from post1.fast.net (post1.fast.net [198.69.204.13]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.06) with ESMTP id CAA03628 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 02:53:49 -0700 Received: from fast.net (maxtnt08-abe-161.fast.net [209.92.13.161]) by post1.fast.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA19349 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37737C6E.24D8E19@fast.net> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:56:14 -0700 From: Ric Skinner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: waphgis@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Free Zipcodes? References: <3.0.6.32.19990621152044.03da9920@direct.ca> <012401bebc39$fe3cae60$7b790518@olmpi1.wa.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ZIP Codophiles: I understand that the ArcView 3.2 upgrade to be released this summer will include 1999 ZIP Codes -- of course in shapefile format. Ric Skinner Research Scientist/GIS Coordinator NJ Dept. of Health & Senior Services Cancer Epidemiology Services wskinner@fast.net "Richard E. Hoskins" wrote: > Glenn: Other than Florida is warmer, don't expect all that greener pastures > with respect to these issues. The presence and the implementation of the > "Freedom of Information Act" still remains at a formidable distance, one > from the other. We promise a completely new set of challenges ... among > them that Florida seems to be on fire a lot lately. > > Dick Hoskins > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: G. Letham > To: > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: Free Zipcodes? > > > Does that ever sound familiar... Confidential information! > > > > For some reason ALL levels of government here in Canada seem to think that > > they are not only the custodians but the owners of thed data and that for > > some strange reason public data such as postal codes are "confidential" - > > only in Canada eh! > > > > I'm looking forward to my upcomming move to Florida. > > Glenn > > > > > > At 09:58 PM 6/19/99 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Actually, Canada's Postal Codes change quite often as well - we need > updates > > >every 6 months. and they cost much more then $295.00 US - we are looking > at > > >about $200.00 per update - assuming that we update every 6 months. If we > > lapse > > >a period - we pay full price $800.00 and that is just points - no > boundaries. > > >We only have boundaries for the first 3 digits of our postal codes eg. > > K1A 0L2 > > >- we only have boundaries for K1A. The rest of the postal code boundary > > files > > >that Canada Post has - have indicated that they are confidential > > information - > > >for some reason.... > > > > > >MARK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Peter H. Van Demark" on 18/06/99 01:15:53 PM > > > > > >Please respond to waphgis@u.washington.edu > > > > > >To: waphgis@u.washington.edu > > >cc: (bcc: Mark Vanderkloot) > > > > > >Subject: Re: Free Zipcodes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Richard: > > > > > >>Where can one find free Zipcodes? Yes ... really! My shop spends quite > a > > >lot every > > >>year to get the latest Zipcode boundaries from the usual suspects. And > > >then we can't > > >>give them to anyone without spending a whole lot more. Why should we > have > > >to do that? > > >>The USPS must have them ... right? Certainly the Zipcodes are public > > >property. Any > > >>ideas? > > > > > >Wrong. ZIP Codes are not areas, they are lists of addresses. The USPS > does > > >not create ZIP Code boundaries, but companies like Geographic Data > > >Technology do. It is not easy, and they charge for it. We sell current > ZIP > > >Code boundaries created from the quarterly GDT data, and a big portion of > > >our price ($295 for the whole U.S., boundaries and points) is a license > fee > > >to GDT. If you get "free" ZIP Code boundaries, they are most likely > > > > > >1) older boundaries (we bundle April 1990 boundaries with our products to > > >go with the 1990 census data) > > > > > >2) a violation of a license agreement > > > > > >I've been a student of postal codes for longer than I'll admit, and I > wish > > >that USPS saw ZIP Codes as semi-permanent areas, as in Canada, UK, etc., > so > > >they could publish them affordably and we could base research (especially > > >longitudinal research) on them. But they don't. Sorry. > > > > > >Peter > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Peter Van Demark > > >Manager of Customer Services Phone: 617-527-4700 > > >Caliper Corporation Fax: 617-527-5113 > > >1172 Beacon Street E-mail: peter@caliper.com > > >Newton MA 02461-9926 Web site: http://www.caliper.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .