From kolb@ucla.edu Sat Jul 1 10:07:29 2000 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA24262 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:07:28 -0700 Received: from panther.noc.ucla.edu (panther.noc.ucla.edu [169.232.10.21]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA28537 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:07:28 -0700 Received: from kolb ([128.97.208.201]) by panther.noc.ucla.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA11297 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.20000701100228.03e28c30@pop.bol.ucla.edu> X-Sender: kolb@pop.bol.ucla.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 10:08:25 -0700 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: Jack Kolb Subject: Re: Greater than Orpheus In-Reply-To: <99.6f91995.268f74ee@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > The Makers > by Howard Nemerov > > Who can remember back to the first poets, > The greatest ones, greater even than Orpheus? > No one has remembered that far back > Or now considers, among the artifacts, > And bones and cantilevered inference > The past is made of, those first and greatest poets, > So lofty and disdainful of renown > They left us not a name to know them by. > > They were the ones that in whatever tongue > Worded the world, that were the first to say > Star, water, stone, that said the visible > And made it bring invisibles to view > In wind and time and change, and in the mind > Itself that minded the hitherto idiot world > And spoke the speechless world and sang the towers > Of the city into the astonished sky. > > They were the first great listeners, attuned > To interval, relationship, and scale, > The first to say above, beneath, beyond, > Conjurors with love, death, sleep, with bread and wine, > Who having uttered vanished from the world > Leaving no memory but the marvelous > Magical elements, the breathing shapes > And stops of breath we build our Babels of. > >> >Poesie ist die Ursprache der Menschheit. > >Gott empfohlen, Ihr >Pastor J.G. Herder >Stadtkirche, Weimar Acknowledged as such in the Horatian tradition (what I call the "golden age" paradigm in my literary criticism course): Amphion and Orpheus as the representatives (Sidney borrows them directly from Horace). What other classical critics employ this tradition? Jack Kolb Dept. of English, UCLA kolb@ucla.edu .