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From: John_Thorburn <John_Thorburn@baylor.edu>
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Subject: swimming ram?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:43:43 -0500
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In Wilk's new book on Medusa, the author writes "Phryxus clinging rather
precariously to a swimming ram. (I know of no example that shows Helle being
rescued by the ram...)"

Several questions...

1. Why the 'y' in Phryxus' name?  Is this a new trend?  I thought his name
was usually spelled with an iota.

2. I seem to recall seeing the vase paintings to which Wilk seems to be
referring.  Isn't the ram flying just above the water, rather than swimming?
Does anyone know of an image in which the ram is clearly swimming?

3. I also seem to recall seeing an icon that shows Helle also clinging to a
ram that is skimming the surface of the water.  Is this the case or am I
dreaming?

Somnambulent in Central Texas

----- Original Message -----
From: "James J. O'Donnell" <jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu>
To: <classics@u.washington.edu>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:57 PM
Subject: fathers and sons


> >From this week's (4/23-30/01) New Yorker, pp. 143-4:
>
> I am appalled, even horrified, that you have adopted Classics as a
> Major.  As a matter of fact, I almost puked on the way home
> today.  . . .  I suppose everybody has to be a snob of some sort,
> and I suppose you will feel that you are distinguishing yourself
> from the herd by becoming a Classical snob.  I can see you
> drifting into a bar, belting down a few, turning around to a guy
> on the stool next to you -- a contemporary billboard baron from
> Podunk, Iowa -- and saying, 'Well, what do you think about old
> Leonidas?' . . . I think you are rapidly becoming a jackass, and
> the sooner you get out of that filthy atmosphere, the better it
> will suit me.
>
> Ed Turner to his son Ted, c. 1958, when the latter was a student at Brown
> Univ.  I tried that thing in the bar one time and the billboard guy popped
> me one.
>
> Jim O'Donnell
> Classics, U. of Penn
> jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu

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