From dlupher@ups.edu Sun Jan 28 13:47:16 2001 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW00.12) with ESMTP id NAA87490 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:47:15 -0800 Received: from mail.ups.edu (main.ups.edu [192.124.98.219]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA25916 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:47:14 -0800 Received: from [207.207.116.53] (wyatt1dhcp53.ups.edu [207.207.116.53]) by mail.ups.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0SLlAf25213 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:47:10 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: dlupher@mail.ups.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A7488D3.F93776AC@temple.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:39:32 -0800 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: David Lupher Subject: Re: Years - and It's Saturday Night Live in New York ! Dan Tompkins asks what Asklepios did with the cock of Pl. Phaedo 118A. I suppose the same thing he did with the one that Kynno gave him at Herondas 4.11ff. For a truly unique (at least, I hope so) interpretation of Socrates' cocky last words, see Eva Keuls, "Reign of the Phallus," pp. 79-82 (in the lst ed., anyway). She claims that Socrates was having a terminal erection. After flashing his friends (she takes "ekkalypsamenos" to refer to uncovering not his head but his genitals), he suggested that Asklepios be given "a conventional homosexual love gift." But since she suggests that this erection may have been the result of the "jailer's touch," I have a further refinement to add to her theory. Perhaps the jailer's name was Asklepios. Since he managed to give Socrates one last sexual thrill, the cock was rightly owed to him. As for what he did with it, well, I suggest that he had it for dinner. Perhaps that will suffice as an answer to Dan's question. As for the Larouchists (for it was they) and I.F. Stone, the Princeton Classics Dept, the Campus Security, and the courts, well, I think I'd better leave the story to those who know it better than I. I spent a year squeezing past them into East Pine Hall several months after the Stone Affair. In a nutshell, though, it all went back to court rulings that grew out of the context of "company towns" and bosses' attempts to "persuade" union organizers to stay out. Or so I recall. David Lupher Classics Dept. Univ. of Puget Sound .