From jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu Fri Apr 20 18:57:39 2001 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f3L1vc949900 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:57:38 -0700 Received: from ccat.sas.upenn.edu (CCAT.SAS.UPENN.EDU [165.123.88.70]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.03) with ESMTP id f3L1vbM02563 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:57:37 -0700 Received: (from jod@localhost) by ccat.sas.upenn.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3L1vQg25138 for classics@u.washington.edu; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (James J. O'Donnell) Message-Id: <200104210157.f3L1vQg25138@ccat.sas.upenn.edu> Subject: fathers and sons To: classics@u.washington.edu Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:57:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From this week's (4/23-30/01) New Yorker, pp. 143-4: I am appalled, even horrified, that you have adopted Classics as a Major. As a matter of fact, I almost puked on the way home today. . . . I suppose everybody has to be a snob of some sort, and I suppose you will feel that you are distinguishing yourself from the herd by becoming a Classical snob. I can see you drifting into a bar, belting down a few, turning around to a guy on the stool next to you -- a contemporary billboard baron from Podunk, Iowa -- and saying, 'Well, what do you think about old Leonidas?' . . . I think you are rapidly becoming a jackass, and the sooner you get out of that filthy atmosphere, the better it will suit me. Ed Turner to his son Ted, c. 1958, when the latter was a student at Brown Univ. I tried that thing in the bar one time and the billboard guy popped me one. Jim O'Donnell Classics, U. of Penn jod@ccat.sas.upenn.edu .