From shiner@home.com Wed Nov 10 14:12:17 1999 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA46028 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:12:15 -0800 Received: from lightning.i3s.net (lightning.i3s.net [209.27.200.220]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA30087 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:12:14 -0800 Received: from c539343d - 24.219.1.5 by optelnow.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:12:07 -0600 From: "d" To: "Failure@U.Washington.Edu" Subject: shiner in denton Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:19:11 -0600 Message-ID: <000201bf2bc9$9d5cf8c0$0501db18@dfw.tx.bbnow.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 fowarded here as i know some of you are shinerheads like me... -----Original Message----- From: d [mailto:shiner@home.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 4:18 PM To: Shiner@Onelist.Com Subject: shiner in denton once again a sweet show. this was the first time we were able to see josh play within the shiner juggernaut. he doesn't disappoint. i felt like this time around (as compared to last time), they've gotten super-tight playing together live, and though the turn-out at rubber gloves wasn't a massive throng of people, it was still a great turn-out for denton, a college town on a school night. the new ep is on sale, a self produced and manufactured 5 song affair with four live tracks and a cover, some of you may know and some may not, so i won't spoil the surprise in case you haven't figured it out yet, that they do in a great way - it's very shinerized and at least i didn't really recognize it until the chorus hit, and then it all fell into place. brilliant. speaking with the gents, they said the tour has gone really well so far, though the drives between some shows has been epic, as seems to be the case with west coast tours. allen guessed 150 people at the seattle show, and portland turned into 2 shows actually, as they confirmed one show and hadn't confirmed the other, and didn't know it was confirmed uintil they had just come off stage after the first show. the first show was an early all ages affair where the band before them were local hepcats, and the crowd was fairly frenzied for them. anxiety set in a little as they realized the chances of all those people bugging out after they saw their hometown heroes was rather high, but when the curtain rose (and there really was a curtain at this venue), all if not more people were there pressed forward to the stage, he guessed upwards of 150 at that show. as soon as the show was over, a guy came up and essentially said "so, you dudes ready to play?" amd they were thinking - "uh, did you miss it? we just wrecked the place..." and the guy went on to say that he was over from the satyricon who said had confirmed them as playing that night (in a few minutes), had listed it and had their name up on the marquee...so whaddaya do? well, if you're shiner, you play til you die. load up, hit satyricon, another hundred and change was the approximate headcount . . . portland got a double whammy and no one knew . . . including the band! becasue it's fashionable to do, i digress . . . after the denton show, they needed a place to put be put up for the night, and i, your fan geek list "admin", obliged. they're all great guys, cool to talk to and hang out with, we swapped live show porn stories (ok, i only have one, and i think we only scratched the surface on the extensive history of the travelling shiner circus), checked out a few nefarious webpages as well as the shiner website .. . . YES. http://shiner.net is back up. the gigs page is sadly missing a chunk of the tour dates for the next week, which i have dutifully added to the end of this message, and it is the classic old-style shiner page you have come to know and love. allen assured me, and wanted me to assure alll of you, that a new page, complete with whiz-bang flash and dhtml coding is currently being developed and ought to be up infecting your browsers very soon. paul said the new album is in varying stage of mixdown, i think some songs are done and some are still being finished, and the timeframe they mentioned for the new love to hit your audio carnage distributors is february. the label still isn't nailed down, negotiations are march into the wee hours, but they assured us it will come out - i could see in the attitudes of all of them that they are VERY anxious to get the new jams in our hungry music boxes, so rest assured all energies are being expended to fulfill that end. they did play some new things on the set, it's all sweet. they opened with something that was just allen and a guitar, a little moody, very cool. perrenial setlist mainstays christ sized shoes and cake were played, as well as spinning, fetch a switch, released, 3rd gear scratch, and a few others that i don't know or that escape me presently. good times. good times. if you live along the rest of the tour, go give them love. you'll get some back, i assure you. d Austin, TX @ Emo's 11/10/99 Houston, TX @ Rudyard's, probably 11/11/99 Baton Rouge, LA @ the Bayou 11/12/99 Pensacola, FLA @ Sluggo's 11/13/99 Nashville, TN @ TBA 11/14/99 Cincinatti, OH @ Sudsy Malone's, probably 11/16/99 Champaign, Il @ the HiDive w/ Tummler 11/17/99 Chicago, Il @ The Empty Bottle w/ Sarge and 11/18/99 Pave the Rocket St. Louis, MO @ the RocketBar, not confirmed. 11/19/99 Kansas City, MO @ Davey's Uptown 11/20/99 .