From Lorenzo.Smerillo@worldnet.att.net Sat Jun 30 12:29:45 2001 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5UJTi097032 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:29:45 -0700 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5UJTiK25788 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:29:44 -0700 Received: from lorenzo ([12.89.176.9]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010630192940.IHJO1777.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@lorenzo> for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:29:40 +0000 Message-ID: <3B3E27E9.4A3C@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 21:26:33 +0200 From: L:Smerillo X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: pedica satur :fu TAN COFFEE References: <200106292302.f5TN2CU25557@darwin.helios.nd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alfred M Kriman wrote: > The recent thread on caffeine led me to the OCD3, where I read > that the Romans, so far as we know, ate very light breakfasts and a > large meal later (originally the largest meal was at noon). Indeed, and it seems that the breakfast was usually some form of bread, but also olives, raisins and sometimes cheese, and perhaps mulsum, a mixture of honey and wine, or milk and eggs, with variations according to wealth. The which perhaps answers my own question of how the ancient Romans awakened themselves, or quickened: it seems to be a glucose and/or salt stimulant (similar to a cornetto e caffé, but I know of remote areas of Italy where cheese and bread are the usual breakfast) but Al Kriman would know more about the chemical details. > BTW: what mention is there of lubrication? In its absence, irritation > would have been common, though I suppose the absence of effective > toilet paper would have compensated somewhat. I thought they used water and sponges to clean, and that some evidence of this is found at Ostia Antica. But what of olive oil, seems as does saliva obvious? feliciter, Lorenzo Smerillo Biblioteca Nazionale Protocenobio Sublacense (ROMA) .