From dlupher@ups.edu Thu Jun 13 11:43:00 2002 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g5DIgxw3068686 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:42:59 -0700 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 13 11:42:58 2002 -0700 Received: from mail.ups.edu (mail.ups.edu [192.124.98.111]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g5DIgwKQ013697 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:42:58 -0700 Received: from [207.207.116.56] (wyatt1dhcp56.ups.edu [207.207.116.56]) by mail.ups.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5DIgvh32653 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:42:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: dlupher@mail.ups.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <98.2742c3f7.2a3a401e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:42:57 -0700 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: David Lupher Subject: Re: A Turn for the Verse (was: Fall of Troy) ArialTim Ladd writes: And the rhymes were "li" and "ri," in the second line, to my ear. Now I'm *really* getting confused. Again, that's assonance, not "rhyme" (which refers to line ends). But, in any case, how could Catullus be "writing obscenities that...rhyme" when the "rhyming" in question involves the un-obscene names "Aureli" and "Furi"? Speaking of rhymes, Michael J. Smith's rhyming version is impressive, I'd say. David Lupher Classics Dept. Univ. of Puget Sound .