From dmeadows@idirect.com Sun Feb 2 08:44:24 2003 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h12GiOCK045382 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 08:44:24 -0800 Received: from parsec.look.ca (parsec.look.ca [207.136.80.122]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h12GiLHT008935 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 08:44:21 -0800 Received: from on-ham-a53-01-186.look.ca ([216.154.51.186]) by parsec.look.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18fNEA-0000jx-00 for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:44:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:42:14 -0500 From: dmeadows@idirect.com X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Reply-To: dmeadows@idirect.com X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1792585057.20030202114214@idirect.com> To: classics@u.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <000001c2cad0$63b156d0$fb0a2c42@D6PBN621> References: <000001c2cad0$63b156d0$fb0a2c42@D6PBN621> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Arnold and Sophocles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=7.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,NO_REAL_NAME,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_THEBAT version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NOSPAM_INC, NO_REAL_NAME, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_THEBAT, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" Salve, On Saturday, February 1, 2003, 11:39:03 AM, E.Moncada scripsit: > "Sophocles long ago heard it on the Aegean..." Do we know what lines [if any] Arnold was specifically referring to? EJM An apparently-first-year-English paper on the www claims it's an allusion to the Antigone: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Marathon/6193/essay_on_dover_beach.htm Various other (better) sites suggest an allusion to Thucydides as well (not in those lines, obviously): http://www.scholars.nus.edu.sg/victorian/authors/arnold/touche4.html Nice bibliography for Dover Beach attached to: http://eir.library.utoronto.ca/rpo/display/poem89.html By the way ... in the course of surfing for this one, I came across Arnold's "On Translating Homer: Last Words": http://www.ajdrake.com/etexts/texts/Arnold/Works/on_trans_homer_last_w_1862.pdf Hope that is useful ... not much free time today ... dm ================================================================ David Meadows Libertas inaestimabilis res est. ================================================================ mailto:dmeadows@idirect.com http://www.atrium-media.com ================================================================ .