From Mindaugas.Strockis@flf.vu.lt Sun Jan 13 11:09:23 2002 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0DJ9Mn141818 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:09:22 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 13 11:09:19 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.takas.lt (mail-src.takas.lt [212.59.31.66]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0DJ9F3F013923 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:09:17 -0800 Received: from humpty ([212.59.24.192]) by mail.takas.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:05:32 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.20020113200228.0147b95c@voruta.vu.lt> X-Sender: ms013flf@voruta.vu.lt X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:02:28 +0100 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: Mindaugas Strockis Subject: Re: Query from the Latin List X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jan 2002 19:05:37.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[48D98750:01C19C65] Desideria Desjardins wrote: >In >Montaigne's essay "Of the Education of Children", he quotes it, and >attributes it to Erasmus: > > For those who want to learn, the obstacle can often be > the authority of those who teach. Erasmi Adagia, Chiliadis secundae Centuria V, LXXXVII ('Ipse dixit'): .... Quanquam M. Tullius libro De Natura Deorum primo, secus rem narrat: Non enim, inquit, tam auctores in disputando, quam rationis momenta quaerenda sunt. ***Quin etiam obest plerumque iis, qui discere volunt, auctoritas eorum, qui se docere profitentur.*** Desinunt enim suum judicium adhibere, id habent ratum, quod ab eo, quem probant, judicatum vident. ... [De natura deorum, I, 10] Incidentally, if you would be interested in a searchable Erasmus (as well as other items) CD, you can write to Tamas Sajo , or visit http://www.studiolum.com . I slightly contributed to the production of this CD (supplied its Greek font). Mindaugas Strockis University of Vilnius .