From emonc@erols.com Wed Mar 8 14:43:57 2000 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA29312 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:43:56 -0800 Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA29292 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:43:54 -0800 Received: from 216-164-231-226.s480.tnt7.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.231.226] helo=erols.com) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 12SpBH-0001F6-00 for Classics@u.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:43:51 -0500 Message-ID: <38C6D7D2.1ECA1C6C@erols.com> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:44:34 -0500 From: Ernest Moncada X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Classics@u.washington.edu Subject: Beautiful language Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do indeed find it interesting that several on the list have encountered the name "Cellardoor," and are able to regard it as beautiful (undoubtedly, the liquids at work) without any reference to its hinged and pedestrian signification. This makes me wonder if perhaps the "name" may not have been an adaptation of some closely sounding name, Celadon for example (a shade of green and perhaps for that reason the name of a rustic in Thompson's "Seasons" (Summer). I went to grade school with a girl whose name was Celadon. There is a keladw in Homer, used with onomatopoeic intent referring to rushing water and blustering wind..which really has nothing to do with anything. And at least we need not trouble ourselves about "cellardoors" in an "Attic" dialect. There are a couple of male Celadons mentioned by Ovid (Met. V. 144; Met. XII, 250, this last one, a Lapithae, getting his face smashed in very graphically and thus, somewhat, detracting from whatever pleasure the name might give. To help sustain the classical note, might it be a pun on "cela d'or," Cf. golden-bright Aphrodite. Spanish could do lttle with it, since "celador" refers to a security guard, usually in a public building. And is "Cellardoor" a man's name or a woman's name (or does it open to both?) I recall reading that "Magdalen" was someone's favorite name, and it might have been mine too, but for the fact that years ago, in pre-cocaine Colombia, I lost a friend to an alligator, or an over-sized caiman, in the Magdalena river. Yet, happily, one is often able to enjoy a euphonious word or name despite an unpleasant referent. Here, I am specifically thinking of Joyce who considered the word "cuspidor" the most beautiful word in English (or was this more Joycean irony?). EJM .