From dbain@interchange.ubc.ca Wed Apr 19 14:55:29 2000 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA44624 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:55:28 -0700 Received: from priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net (edtnes11.telus.net [199.185.220.111]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA01371 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:55:26 -0700 Received: from interchange.ubc.ca ([209.53.80.166]) by priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.11 201-229-116-111) with ESMTP id <20000419215248.CANF20085.priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net@interchange.ubc.ca>; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:52:48 -0600 Message-ID: <38FE2AE9.64DEFF13@interchange.ubc.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:53:45 -0700 From: Don X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Fwd: [NL] URGENT! Cree Medicine Bundle being auctioned on EBay!] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:56:28 -0700 >Reply-To: AN-NA-FN Discussions in Literature >Sender: AN-NA-FN Discussions in Literature >From: Beverly Slapin >Subject: Re: [NL] URGENT! Cree Medicine Bundle being auctioned on EBay! >To: NATIVELIT-L@listserv.uga.edu > >Friends: > >This morning, I found this item listed on the EBay auction site. I am >forwarding this description, along with the information and the seller's >e-mail address in the hopes that someone can convince her to return this >sacred item to the Cree Nation. If you can, please write to this seller >and pass this on quickly, as the auction ends soon. CC your letters to >me if you want to. > >Beverly > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310697835 >Item Number: 310697835 >Item Name: 1850s Cree Medicine Man Moose Bags with Contents >Date auction began: April 16 at 19:11:59 PDT >Date auction ends: April 23 at 19:11:59 PDT >Seller's EBay code moniker: "honestkate (556)" >Seller's e-mail address: wolffleur@aol.com > >Description the seller posted to EBay: > >This is an 1850s Cree Medicine Man's Beaded Moosehide Medicine bag >complete with contents. Medicine men where considered to be like Indian >Royalty. Included in this collection is his beaded umbilical cord >necklace. My understanding is that his mother saved his umbilical cord >and put it inside this sacred necklace for him. There is a turtle shell >he may have grounded herbs in with the rounded rock. There are two types >of animal horns. One is covered with leather and bound with an old >floral textile. Inside that horn is corn meal and INCREDIBLE as it may >seem, inside the corn meal is a QUARTZ CRYSTAL! I thought quartz crystal >healings were a new age thing, but the indians knew of the healing >abilities or quartz crystals long before we did! (That discovery just >blew me away!). There is some kind of herb root. Another type of >quartz-like rock. There is a large sea shell. There is a rock flint. >There are FIVE leather bags full of herbs. One has a black substance in >it, rather resinated. The first thing that came to mind was peyote but >that is just my guess. The smaller leather herb bags have been used many >times in ceremonies because you can see where they were grasped in the >medicine man's sweaty hand because they took on the formation of being >squeezed shut rather than tied. The necklace is of a beaded corn (sacred >corn) and has a stitched leather back and the beads are old Russian >trade beads. All these items where found in the large moosehide bag and >are now displayed in this presentation case. I am completely fascinated >with this one-of-a-kind collection and AFTER trying to identify what >healing herbs were in the leather bags, I remembered what happened to >the men who breathed the spores of King Tuts tomb. I went to bed very >frightened that I might not wake up...but I am here! I would love to see >this collection go to a medical doctor, surgeon or some other type of >healer. Maybe the Navajo, Apache, Crow, Zuni, Pueblo medicine men would >value this collection. I am putting this collection up for auction in an >attempt to place it in the perfect place it deserves. It is tremendously >sacred and holy. > >TERMS: Buyer to pay $8 Priority shipping and payment is due within 10 >days from end of auction. Insurance is recommended since seller is not >responsible for lost or damaged mail. I accept credit card payments >through PayPal.Com only (see link at bottom of page). Credit and money >orders ship items following Mon/Tues. Checks ship items second Mon/Tues. >Please ask all questions prior to end of auction because all sales are >final. Check out my other auctions for Navajo rugs, old pawn turquoise >jewelry, sand paintings, oriental antiques, and other unusual items. >Good Luck! > >If you would like to be an eBay seller, check out my homepage at: > >http://hometown.aol.com/ebayseller43466/myhomepage/business.html > > >On April 16-00 at 20:13:18 PDT, seller added the following information: > >This display case measures 20" x 14". I believe this Cree Indian >Medicine Man was a Woodland Cree from Canada because the Woodland Crees >hunted moose which is what the large medicine bag is made of. An >interesting fact about the Woodland Cree Indians is that they practiced >cannibalism (reported in tribal tales as well as by Europeans. These >Indians were also called Swampy Cree or Maskegon. They didn't have >access to corn maize which leaves another enigma about the orgin of this >Cree Medicine Man. The Plains Cree did cultivate corn and the animal >horn in the collection is filled with corn maize. The Plains Cree, after >acquiring horses and firearms, were more militant than the Woodland >Crees, raiding and warring against many other Plains tribes. Religion >and ceremony were highly highly valued, seemingly as means of fostering >success in war and the bison hunt. Both the Woodland and the Plains Cree >Indians had an intense fear of witchcraft and they had respect for all >varieties of taboos and customs relating to the spirits of game animals. >Medicine men and conjurers wielded great power. The Cree Indians were >almost annilated by small pox brought over by the Europeans. > >On Apr-17-00 at 12:57:00 PDT, seller added the following information: > >An eBayer emailed me to ask if this medicine man was a shaman. It is my >understanding that both are healers and are one of the same. Any >insights, including wicca, into this mysterious collection, such as what >kind of herbs might be in each bag or what the black powder substance >might be are invited. Please email me and I will add any insights which >ring true to this item description. .