From ptrourke@methymna.com Sat Jan 18 08:42:46 2003 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h0IGgjCK037282 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:42:45 -0800 Received: from relay04.valueweb.net (relay04.valueweb.net [216.219.253.238]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h0IGgfZX026769 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:42:42 -0800 Received: from thor.valueweb.net ([216.219.254.23]:52694 "EHLO thor.valueweb.net") by relay04.valueweb.net with ESMTP id ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:38:51 -0500 Received: from h00500480cb85.ne.client2.attbi.com ([24.61.233.74]:39950 "HELO caliban") by thor.valueweb.net with SMTP id ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:43:58 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c2bf10$8a4c8dd0$4ae93d18@caliban> From: "Patrick T. Rourke" To: Subject: Lysistrata Translations Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:42:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=III, Probability=3%, Report="USER_AGENT_OE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY" > Below is a note posted on Latinteach from > Nina Barclay about the Lystistrata Project. > Here's my request: I would like an > abbreviated copy--say a one act play > version--that I could do in a 50 minute > class with my students. Might be > a good way to start off National > Latin Teacher Recruitment Week. > Are there any online translations > worth having? Yes, one of Henderson's translations is at Perseus (probably his Loeb). Of course, it is copyrighted, and is likely to remain so indefinitely (even if, by some miracle, the Congress doesn't extend the copyright laws again in 2018). So make sure that any use you make of it constitutes fair use. There are paperbacks of Douglass Parker's somewhat loose translation for the Michigan series, Alan Sommerstein's translation in the Penguin, a translation by Halliwell in the Oxford World's Classics, and of course Jeffrey Henderson's translations in the Loeb and Focus (They are different translations). Nicholas Rudall's is worth avoiding. B.B. Rogers' is pretty timebound. The other two online versions I noticed were a stale one at http://www.sogang.ac.kr/~anthony/Classics/Lysistrata.htm, http://eserver.org/drama/aristophanes/lysistrata.txt http://book1.ssreader.com/netlib/english/Translated%20Works/A/Aristophanes(4 50-385BC)/Lysistrata.txt which may well be the same edition as the Dover, and a version by George Theodoridis at http://www.tkline.freeserve.co.uk/Webworks/Website/LYSISTRATA.htm which seems upon cursory inspection to be primarily intended for the "isn't dirty language fun and artsy?" crowd. But I suspect the most appropriate version for this purpose would be Tony Harrison's *The Common Chorus* and its sister play, *Medea: A Sex-War Opera*. Cutting any Aristophanes play to the time of a single class will be hard work, though. The teacher who introduced me to Greek tragedy read a translation of Thesmophoriazusae in two consecutive class sessions, about six hours total, and still had to cut the choruses. (Of course, there was some lecture and there were some side comments interspersed in that.) I'm posting some notes listing the translations I could remember/find easily on the web or Amazon at http://www.methymna.com/classics/lysistrata.html . They are very rough notes. If anyone wants to email me any they know about that I haven't listed, some day I may get a chance to add them. .