From lockyert@mweb.co.za Sun Jul 22 09:38:17 2001 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f6MGcC0102582 for ; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 09:38:12 -0700 Received: from earthquake.mweb.co.za (earthquake.mweb.co.za [196.2.53.139]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f6MGc5K20009 for ; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 09:38:07 -0700 Received: from al40 ([196.30.238.85]) by earthquake.mweb.co.za (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with SMTP id <0GGV00HCDUPO7U@earthquake.mweb.co.za> for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 18:20:14 +0200 (SAT) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 18:18:09 +0200 From: Terrence Lockyer Subject: Battering To: Classics List Message-id: <000901c112ca$0a4b8620$55ee1ec4@al40> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 I just wrote : On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Diana Wright enquired : about the conflation in art of Neoptolemos' : killing of Priamos, and than of Astyanax, son : of Hektor. There is a discussion of this (in : literature and in art) in That may have suggested that the conflation occurred in literature. It does not appear to have. Gantz' discussions are of the various representations of the two deaths, including the artistic ones of their conflation. The clearest examples of the Priamos-Astyanax-Neoptolemos constellation appear to be in a few Attic red-figured scenes, which include the vase on which Astyanax is named. Terrence Lockyer Johannesburg, South Africa .