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From: Mary Bellino <iambe@javanet.com>
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Hmm...I'm copyediting a book on Thucydides right now. Think I'll suggest 
to the author that the Gibson quote could be slipped into a footnote 
(possibly in connection with 1.22.4?), thereby demonstrating the 
author's incredible hipness AND bringing the bibliography up to 2000 in 
one fell swoop. 

Mary "ktema es aie" Bellino


J. Mark Sugars wrote:
> 
> In Lucinda Moore's "Capturing America's Fight for Freedom,"
> *Smithsonian* 31, #4 (July 2000), an article about the movie "The
> Patriot," Mel Gibson comments (p. 50):
> 
>         "...You'll get more accurate readings about what's going
>         on in the world today by reading about what happened
>         in ancient Greece than by reading the newspaper."
>           Inadvertently I raise an eyebrow.
>           "Because history does just stumble over and repeat itself,"
>         he explains.  "Did you ever read Thucydides?" he says,
>         his face lighting up.
>           "He was like a roving reporter in the Peloponnesian
>         War, going from side to side reporting, around 400 B.C.
>         It's amazing this stuff survived!  It was completely
>         unbiased, and people didn't cover up as much as today.
>         It's just one big cycle, and the same forces are at
>         work all the time.  I'm pretty cynical about the powers
>         that be," he concludes.
> 
> Just thought I'd share this with everybody.
> 
> J. Mark Sugars
> Irvine, California
.