From vnedeljk@f.bg.ac.yu Thu Oct 11 15:58:07 2001 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.08) with SMTP id f9BMvvN85278 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:57:57 -0700 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Oct 11 15:57:55 2001 -0700 Received: from dekart.f.bg.ac.yu (IDENT:root@dekart.f.bg.ac.yu [147.91.75.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.08) with ESMTP id f9BMvru17736 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:57:54 -0700 Received: from sivonja (Dial-73.f.bg.ac.yu [147.91.75.73]) by dekart.f.bg.ac.yu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA08135 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:57:46 +0200 Message-ID: <002501c152a8$26091f80$464b5b93@sivonja> From: "Vojin Nedeljkovic" To: References: <20011010172510.WGCO6564.femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com@Desiree> Subject: Re: Hymn. Ambr. Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:20:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C152B3.B95280A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C152B3.B95280A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, there are several Ambrosian hymns. They are not all composed by = Ambrose, but are written in his style, which was original. The Catholic = Encyclopaedia says Ambrosian hymns are written "in a style severely = elegant, chaste, perspicuous, clothing Christian ideas in classical = phraseology, and yet appealing to popular tastes".=20 Still, isn't only one, the Te Deum, known as THE Ambrosian Hymn? The = Rule of St. Benedict refers to The Ambrosian Hymn, and I do believe it = is the Te Deum to which it refers. Although in the Breviary it is called = the Hymn of Sts. Ambrose and Augustine (Hymnus SS. Ambrosii et = Augustini), I think that later it became known as simply the Hymn of St. = Ambrose. Desideria Desjardins Ottawa Although with no great certainty, the Te Deum (or at least its final = recension) has been ascribed to Nicetas of Remesiana. Since it is = written in a sort of metrical prose, it is no 'ambrosianum'. The Rule of St Benedict prescribes chanting _an_ ambrosianum (not _the_ = ambrosianum) on occasion: 9.4 inde sequatur ambrosianum, deinde sex = psalmi cum antiphonas; 12.4 inde benedictiones et laudes, lectionem de = apocalypse una ex corde, et responsorium, ambrosianum, versu, canticum = de evangelia, litania, et completum est (see also 13.11, 17.8). Vojin Nedeljkovic VivaVoce - mp3 files of Latin poetry http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~vnedeljk/VV Tolle, lege! - Easy Latin texts http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~vnedeljk/TL ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C152B3.B95280A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, there are several Ambrosian hymns. They are not all composed = by=20 Ambrose, but are written in his style, which was original. The = Catholic=20 Encyclopaedia says Ambrosian hymns are written "in a style severely = elegant,=20 chaste, perspicuous, clothing Christian ideas in classical = phraseology, and=20 yet appealing to popular tastes".
Still, isn't only one, the Te = Deum,=20 known as THE Ambrosian Hymn? The Rule of St. Benedict refers to The = Ambrosian=20 Hymn, and I do believe it is the Te Deum to which it refers. Although = in the=20 Breviary it is called the Hymn of Sts. Ambrose and Augustine (Hymnus = SS.=20 Ambrosii et Augustini), I think that later it became known as simply = the Hymn=20 of St. Ambrose.
Desideria Desjardins
Ottawa

Although with no great certainty, the Te Deum (or at least its = final=20 recension) has been ascribed to Nicetas of Remesiana. Since it is = written in a=20 sort of metrical prose, it is no 'ambrosianum'.

The Rule of St Benedict prescribes chanting _an_ ambrosianum=20 (not _the_ ambrosianum) on occasion: 9.4 inde sequatur ambrosianum, = deinde=20 sex psalmi cum antiphonas; 12.4 inde benedictiones et laudes, lectionem = de=20 apocalypse una ex corde, et responsorium, ambrosianum, versu, = canticum de=20 evangelia, litania, et completum est (see also 13.11, = 17.8).

Vojin Nedeljkovic

VivaVoce - mp3 files of Latin poetry
http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~= vnedeljk/VV
Tolle,=20 lege! - Easy Latin texts
http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~= vnedeljk/TL

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