From thompson@jlc.net Wed Apr 7 15:58:03 1999 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA44790 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:58:02 -0700 Received: from verdi.jlc.net (verdi.jlc.net [199.201.159.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA04993 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:58:01 -0700 Received: from pgthomps.jlc.net (pm2a-77.dialup.jlc.net [199.201.159.77]) by verdi.jlc.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA19401 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407185904.007efdb0@mailhost.jlc.net> X-Sender: thompson@mailhost.jlc.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:59:04 -0400 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: George Thompson Subject: Re: Literary Concentricity (?), Symmetry In-Reply-To: <046601be810c$c9ab9b10$3840a284@jhelm.oberlin.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just to add to Jim Helm's ref. to Whitman's analysis of the Iliad: One finds ring structures very frequently in Vedic poetry, though generally found compressed within individual stanzas. On a larger and more intricate scale, one finds it in Avestan, in the Gathas of Zarathustra. By the way, the term 'chaismus' is sometimes used to characterize this phenomenon. You will find massive evidence of ring composition in a variety of Indo-European poetic traditions in Watkins, *How to Kill a Dragon: Aspects of Indo-European Poetics*. Saussure noticed this phenomenon nearly a hundred years ago, and Jakobson has explored it as well, both in Slavic and on an abstract theoretical plane, in his discussions of the poetic function. With a little shift in perspective, this is what Biblical parallelism is all about too. I think. Best wishes, George Thompson At 11:39 AM 4/7/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Well, there is Whitman's elaborate structural analysis of the Iliad, >published in his _Homer and the Heroic Tradition_ (Harvard, 1958), which >includes chapters entitled, "Homer and Geometric Art", and "The Geometric >Structure of the _Iliad_". Jim Helm .