From jmpfund@bgnet.bgsu.edu Fri Nov 24 12:13:14 2000 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA82276 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:13:13 -0800 Received: from sp07.notesnet.bgsu.edu (sp07.notesnet.bgsu.edu [129.1.7.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA32327 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:13:13 -0800 Received: from [129.1.190.146] ([129.1.190.191]) by sp07.notesnet.bgsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.2b) with ESMTP id 2000112415075376:5964 ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:07:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jmpfund@popj.bgsu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000c01c054c8$135f9f00$c300000a@psicorp.com> References: <000c01c054c8$135f9f00$c300000a@psicorp.com> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:11:22 -0400 To: classics@u.washington.edu From: James Pfundstein Subject: Chestertonian unabashed (WASs: Chesterton Bashing) X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MAIL03/SERVER/BGSU(Release 5.0.2b |December 16, 1999) at 11/24/2000 03:07:54 PM, Serialize by Router on MAIL03/SERVER/BGSU(Release 5.0.2b |December 16, 1999) at 11/24/2000 03:07:59 PM, Serialize complete at 11/24/2000 03:07:59 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 4:06 PM -0500 22.11.2000, P. T. Rourke wrote: >JMP, let us say that with Chesterton, his talent (as a prose stylist, as a >narrator, what have you) is below the threshold at which "de gustibus" >becomes operative (which is not the case with, e.g., Milton, most certainly >"one of the most brilliant writers in the English language"). >PTR I'm not sure that I can agree on this. Even the biggest figures of the canon are not immune to changes in collective taste or cultural preference. (Milton's stock has certainly seen some ups and downs this century. I hope it doesn't sound hybristic or merely argumentative when I say I don't consider Milton's status beyond question.) What is beyond "de gustibus" disputing, though, is that some books go on being read, generation after generation and century after century; they have a more than merely historical importance. Milton's poetry is in this category, and clearly some of Chesterton's prose is, too. Chesterton is a trifler, a nugator, in fact. But I would resist the idea that this makes him less interesting or less valuable than a big grumpy writer of epics, like Milto(w)n. As one writer of nugae was told by his sordid muse: Scribant ista graves nimium nimiumque severi, quos media miseros nocte lucerna videt; at tu Romano lepidos sale tingue libellos: adgnoscat mores vita legatque suos. Angusta cantare licet uidearis avena, dum tua multorum vincat avena tubas. JM("Martial 8.3.17ff")P .