From healthmaps@home.com Wed Dec 13 04:22:58 2000 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.05/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA79594 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:22:57 -0800 Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA31548 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:22:56 -0800 Received: from c501552d ([24.19.225.248]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001213122253.EVEY10815.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@c501552d>; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:22:53 -0800 From: "Health Maps" To: "Sonntag, Ron" , "Mlwarren" , "Maden, Chris" , , "O'Connor, Cathy" Subject: RE: WAPHGIS: firewall review article Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:22:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C064BC.5CC53070" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <001301c064fa$843f0ca0$b502fea9@homer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C064BC.5CC53070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Gibson's site http://www.grc.com is really worth a look. ZoneAlarm from http://www.zonelabs.com/ passes the test. http://antivirus.cai.com/ has free antivirus software as John noted. Richard Hoskins healthmaps@home.com GMT -8 -----Original Message----- From: WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of John French Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 3:48 AM To: waphgis@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: WAPHGIS: firewall review article ---------- From: John French[SMTP:JFRENCH2@BELLATLANTIC.NET] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 3:47:47 AM To: waphgis@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: WAPHGIS: firewall review article Auto forwarded by a Rule Dick, In the article you referenced (way below), they discussed a newly found problem - a hacker could attack by sending (a simplistic term) a file with the same name as a file you have already approved as a "server." So I opined they would fix that problem fairly quickly. (In fact, it looks like Steve Gibson has already developed a test for it.) Dick, I have found the issue of security a fascinating one. Sounds like you do as well. For you and others with even a passing interest, go to Steve Gibson's site http://www.grc.com and try out his security checks. His mailing list sends out maybe one email a month. Worth getting on it. Also check out Computer Associates Int'l antivirus pgm, InoculateIt Personal - it is free, unlike MacAfee and Norton. And CAI is one of the biggest software companies in the world. If you use WP_FTP watch out for locking up your computer when ZoneAlarm is active. John French ----- Original Message ----- From: Health Maps To: waphgis@u.washington.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 5:11 AM Subject: RE: WAPHGIS: firewall review article john: Can you explain your last sentence? "I assume that within a few weeks, the firewall mfrs can set up checks to prevent access. Meanwhile, i like zonealarm for my setup." Also I installed ZoneAlarm yesterday. I got all kinds of hits from sources I have never heard of. I have a dim understanding of this stuff right now, so its not clear yet how much is a threat or not but it looks like a good idea to find out. Richard Hoskins healthmaps@home.com GMT -8 -----Original Message----- From: WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of John French Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:02 PM To: waphgis@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: WAPHGIS: firewall review article Steve Gibson, the expert quoted in the zdnet story below, has been recommending ZoneAlarm for at least a year. I started using it early this year, and bought the Pro model a couple of months ago. If one wants the extra protection to prevent the unlikely occurence of a downloaded file masquerading as one with server status, such as iexplore.exe, then turn on the switch that requires confirmation for internet access. I assume that within a few weeks, the firewall mfrs can set up checks to prevent access. Meanwhile, i like zonealarm for my setup. John French From: Health Maps To: WAPHGIS Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:18 PM Subject: WAPHGIS: firewall review article A list member found the article on firewalls, http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2663028,00.html : Personal firewalls: Not so safe? The rush to get personal firewall applications to market has resulted in products that are easily compromised and often chock-full of security holes. Richard Hoskins healthmaps@home.com GMT -8 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C064BC.5CC53070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve Gibson's site http://www.grc.com  is really worth a look. ZoneAlarm from http://www.zonelabs.com/ passe= s the=20 test.
 
http://antivirus.cai.com/  = has free=20 antivirus software as John noted.
 
 
Richard Hoskins
healthmaps@home.com
GMT -8
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From:=20 WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu = [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu]On=20 Behalf Of John French
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 = 3:48=20 AM
To: waphgis@u.washington.edu
Subject: Re: = WAPHGIS:=20 firewall review article



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From:   John French[SMTP:JFRENCH2@BELLATLANTIC.NET] =
Sent: =        Wednesday, December 13, 2000 3:47:47 AM =
To:      waphgis@u.washington.edu
Subject:        = Re: WAPHGIS: firewall review article =
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Dick,
In the article you referenced (way = below), they=20 discussed a newly found problem - a hacker could attack by = sending  (a=20 simplistic term) a file with the same name as a file you have already = approved=20 as a "server."  So I opined they would fix that problem fairly = quickly.=20 (In fact, it looks like Steve Gibson has already developed a test for=20 it.)
 
Dick, I have found the issue of = security a=20 fascinating one. Sounds like you do as well. For you and others with = even a=20 passing interest, go to Steve Gibson's site http://www.grc.com and try out=20 his security checks. His mailing list sends out maybe one email a = month. Worth=20 getting on it. Also check out Computer Associates Int'l antivirus pgm, = InoculateIt Personal - it is free, unlike MacAfee and Norton. And CAI = is one=20 of the biggest software companies in the world.
 
If you use WP_FTP watch out for = locking up your=20 computer when ZoneAlarm is active.
 
John French
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Health=20 Maps
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, = 2000 5:11=20 AM
Subject: RE: WAPHGIS: = firewall review=20 article

john:  Can you explain your last sentence? "I assume that within a few weeks, the firewall mfrs = can set up=20 checks to prevent access. Meanwhile, i like zonealarm for my setup." =
 
Also I installed ZoneAlarm yesterday. I got all kinds of = hits from=20 sources I have never heard of. I have a dim understanding of this = stuff=20 right now, so its not clear yet how much is a threat or not but it = looks=20 like a good idea to find out.
 
Richard Hoskins
healthmaps@home.com
GMT -8
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu=20 [mailto:WAPHGIS-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of John=20 French
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:02 = PM
To:=20 waphgis@u.washington.edu
Subject: Re: WAPHGIS: firewall = review=20 article

Steve Gibson, the expert quoted in = the zdnet=20 story below, has been recommending ZoneAlarm for at least a year. = I=20 started using it early this year, and bought the Pro model a = couple of=20 months ago. If one wants the extra protection to prevent the = unlikely=20 occurence of a downloaded file masquerading as one with server = status,=20 such as iexplore.exe, then turn on the switch that requires = confirmation=20 for internet access.
 
I assume that within a few weeks, = the=20 firewall mfrs can set up checks to prevent access. Meanwhile, i = like=20 zonealarm for my setup.
 
John French
 
 
From:=20 Health=20 Maps
To: WAPHGIS
Sent: Tuesday, December = 12, 2000=20 6:18 PM
Subject: WAPHGIS: = firewall review=20 article

A list=20 member found the article on firewalls,
 
ht= tp://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2663028,00.html
 
:=20
Personal firewalls: Not so safe?=20
The rush to get personal = firewall=20 applications to market has resulted in products that are = easily=20 compromised and often chock-full of security holes.=20
 
 
Richard Hoskins
healthmaps@home.com
GMT -8 =
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