From jramaker@oc.ctc.edu Thu Jun 18 10:32:17 1998 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA36844 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:32:16 -0700 Received: from oc.ctc.edu (oc.ctc.edu [134.39.30.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA22319 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:32:16 -0700 Received: from jolram.ctc.edu ([134.39.30.55]) by oc.ctc.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with SMTP id AAA4510; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:32:08 -0700 Received: by jolram.ctc.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BD9AA3.E71FA740@jolram.ctc.edu>; Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:28:58 -0700 Message-ID: <01BD9AA3.E71FA740@jolram.ctc.edu> From: "Jolene Ramaker" To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide , "'Joseph M. St.Hilaire'" Subject: RE: Status of non-citizen Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 10:28:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually, Joe, you have an excellent point and one I missed. By itself, = the WDL would only mean that he was required by law to get one if he was = in the state longer than 30 days and driving, but taken with a filing = for a green card, I might count it. I am still back to the action taken = on the green card, however, as the salient point. ---------- From: Joseph M. St.Hilaire[SMTP:saint@admsec.wwu.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 1:11 AM To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide Subject: RE: Status of non-citizen ***Janelle: Jolene is right again, of course, and please don't send = that guy up the hill to me (we musta sent him down to you!). The I-94 is = just a travel record and not any indication that he has been or will be = granted permanent resident status. His marriage to a US citizen probably will expedite his application for perm res status, but until he gets the = green card (or approval for a green card), he's out of luck. Now here's where them thar residency classification officers seem to = be parting company: Jolene apparently will use the date of application for perm res status as the date when the 12-month clock begins to tick, but = I would say that May 1998, the date when he was finally here permanently = and he began his 12 months of continuous residence, could be used IF he gets the green card (or approval of it) some time in the next year. Let's = say he gets the green card in June 99. I would reclassify him effective = summer 99, since he declared his intention to become a perm res of WA by = getting the WDL at least one year prior to June 99 and began his 12 months of continuous presence in May 98. If he doesn't get the green card (or approval for it) until Nov 99, I'd reclassify him effective Winter 00. I suppose I would use the date of application for green card as the date of dec of intention to become a perm res if he were lacking other evidence--e.g., didn't have a WDL or veh reg. Amazing the endless nuances of this business. Not to mention the different interpretations! (Now please don't tell me that we had = already classified him as a resident!) Joe St.Hilaire Western ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Jolene Ramaker wrote: > As my resident expert said, "I wouldn't give this guy residency on a = bet!". He went back to Sweden as he was required to do by his entry visa = (because=20 it ran out). Then came back in May and IF he applied for a green card = at that point, you can give him residency one year from the date on the = application. For instance, he may have applied for a marriage visa and the INS = won't=20 issue him a green card until he has been successfully married for two = years. =20 But we can count physical presence from the date of application for the=20 status. If he is still on one of the temporary Visa's, he cannot be a=20 resident. >=20 > = *************************************************************************= **** > Dr. Jolene Ramaker, Registrar Net: jramaker@oc.ctc.edu > Olympic College Phone: 360-792-6050, ext. = 4504 > 1600 Chester Ave. Voicemail: 360-792-6050, = ext. 1000 > Bremerton, WA 98337-1699 Fax: 360-792-2135 > = *************************************************************************= ***** >=20 >=20 > ---------- > From: c:[SMTP:jmine@ctc.ctc.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 2:07 PM > To: Discussion of Residency Issues State Wide > Subject: Status of non-citizen >=20 > I have a swedish student who arrived in Washington June 1997 to marry = a > Bellingham resident (a marriage certificate shows that they married in > August). He obtained a WDL in September. The student has an I-94 > departure record, with an admit date of June 16, 1997. A date of > December 15, 1997 is also stamped on the form which states on the > reverse side that "you are authorized to stay in the U.S. only until = the > date written on this form." Does this grant him "temporary" resident > status for only 6 months? Should he have applied for some kind of > permanent status after December? To add to the confusion, the student > states on his residency questionnaire that he was in Sweden from = 12/3/97 > to 5/20/98, with a reason of "my wife and I went to Sweden for = Christmas > and in order to get back to the U.S. I had to reapply for residence > again before entering the U.S." >=20 > Where do I go from here? =20 >=20 > P.S. Joe St. Hilaire: If you're "listening," the student also states > he attended WWU Summer Quarter 1998.=20 > --=20 > Janelle Miner, Registrar > Whatcom Community College > jmine@ctc.ctc.edu or (360)676-2170 >=20 >=20 .