From curculio@earthlink.net Sun Jun 23 07:44:16 2002 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g5NEiFw3078694 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 07:44:15 -0700 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jun 23 07:44:15 2002 -0700 Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.06) with ESMTP id g5NEiFbq004600 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 07:44:15 -0700 Received: from 11cust137.tnt1.portland.me.da.uu.net ([67.243.175.137] helo=t9q0o0) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17M8b7-0000qS-00 for classics@u.washington.edu; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 07:44:13 -0700 Message-ID: <003d01c21ac3$5f35c720$89aff343@t9q0o0> From: "Michael Hendry" To: References: <0b8801c21a17$e92e70a0$9603a5d8@computer> Subject: Re: Night & Day, Day & Night Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:36:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C21AA1.D6EE6640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C21AA1.D6EE6640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thinking that Herodotus must have gotten "night and day" from a Persian = source is as idiotic as thinking that Cole Porter couldn't have written = his "Night and Day" without reading the phrase in Herodotus or = Thucydides. Or perhaps he got it direct from the Persian sources? This = is one of those cases where the editor's duty is to strongly suggest = excision of all parts of the argument that depend on this particular = piece.=20 Perhaps I'm a little grouchy, but I've read even worse arguments in = articles I've refereed, and then seen them appear in print -- not = necessarily in the same journal, of course. Michael Hendry c/o North Yarmouth Academy 148 Main Street Yarmouth, ME 04096 (207) 846-6501 E-mail: curculio@earthlink.net Web-page: http://www.curculio.org ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Diana Wright=20 To: Classics=20 Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Night & Day, Day & Night I am editing a paper for a European journal in which the author = claims that the phrase, "night & day" in Hdt. 5.23.2 comes directly from = Persian sources [it is in the Bisutun inscription recounting the same = event] and that it enters into Greek from Persian sources as it is also = found in Thucydides 1.129 & Anabasis 2.6.7, both recounting Persian = matters. Is this likely? I won't get to see a TLG until Monday, but night & = day/day & night seem too obvious to have to borrow. DW ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C21AA1.D6EE6640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thinking that Herodotus must have gotten "night and day" from a = Persian=20 source is as idiotic as thinking that Cole Porter couldn't have written = his=20 "Night and Day" without reading the phrase in Herodotus or=20 Thucydides.  Or perhaps he got it direct from the Persian = sources? =20 This is one of those cases where the editor's duty is to strongly = suggest=20 excision of all parts of the argument that depend on this = particular=20 piece. 
 
Perhaps I'm a little grouchy, but I've read even worse arguments in = articles I've refereed, and then seen them appear in print -- not = necessarily in=20 the same journal, of course.
Michael Hendry
c/o North Yarmouth Academy
148 Main=20 Street
Yarmouth, ME 04096
(207) 846-6501
E-mail:  curculio@earthlink.net
Web-= page: =20 http://www.curculio.org
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Diana Wright =
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 = 2:09=20 PM
Subject: Night & Day, Day = &=20 Night

I am editing a paper for  a = European journal=20 in which the author claims that the phrase, "night & day" in Hdt. = 5.23.2=20 comes directly from Persian sources [it is in the Bisutun inscription=20 recounting the same event] and that it enters into Greek from Persian = sources=20 as it is also found in Thucydides 1.129 &  Anabasis 2.6.7, = both=20 recounting Persian matters.

Is this likely?  I won't get to = see a TLG=20 until Monday, but night & day/day & night seem too obvious to = have to=20 borrow.

 

DW

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