From dmdc@rogers.com Sun Jan 13 08:08:14 2002 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.6+UW01.08/8.11.6+UW01.10) with SMTP id g0DG8Dn122196 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:08:13 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jan 13 08:08:09 2002 -0800 Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW01.12) with ESMTP id g0DG89VK003264 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:08:09 -0800 Received: from desiree ([24.112.254.188]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.02 201-253-122-122-102-20011128) with SMTP id <20020113160808.CVNK120888.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@desiree> for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:08:08 -0500 From: dmdc@rogers.com To: classics@u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:09:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Query from the Latin List Message-ID: <3C416AFD.7614.142373@localhost> In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020113101645.027e8370@idirect.com> References: <001501c19c2c$05f01a00$7438ef9b@al40> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body David Meadows is correct, this quote is often bandied about by homeschoolers (being a home educator myself, I know) and is often attributed to Cicero, as quoated by Montaigne. But In Montaigne's essay "Of the Education of Children", he quotes it, and attributes it to Erasmus: For those who want to learn, the obstacle can often be the authority of those who teach. --Erasmus, Apophthegmata, III I don't have Apophthegmata around to look it up and verify, but perhaps someone else on the list does? Could it be that Cicero quoted Erasmus in one of his works as well? Desideria Desjardins .