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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 12:11:52 -0500
To: classics@u.washington.edu
From: David Meadows <dmeadows@idirect.com>
Subject: RE: classes/lower income
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.... and petty ...

dm

At 10:50 AM 01/01/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I am glad I've never been asked to be one of the 'some of us.'  Political
>content is unavoidable--lotsa folks would consider David's initial comment
>about 'working class' political.  Perhaps a better distinction is between
>trivial and worthwhile.
>
>Dan Tompkins
>
> >===== Original Message From David Meadows <dmeadows@idirect.com> =====
> >The wording of my original response to this was rejected, fortunately,
> >since it gives me opportunity to give a somewhat more temperate response:
> >the fact of the matter is that some of us have been trying actively to
> >reduce the political content of this list (and I think the past year is a
> >good example of how good this list can be in this regard when folks *do*
> >make the effort). However, the fact remains that there are certain
> >constituencies on this list who insist on beating a horse long after it has
> >expired -- neigh -- long after the wee beasties have begun to turn it to
> >compost. That's a sad state of affairs. What's particularly sad is in a
> >thread which ostensibly was designed to show how exciting Classics is for
> >some folks, that we insist on showing how utterly boring we can be ...
> >
> >dm
> >
>
>Daniel P. Tompkins
>Director, Intellectual Heritage Program
>Temple University
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>
>Just out!  The Brookings Institution's list of the top government 
>achievements of the past fifty years. The 'top 10' are at:
>http://www.brook.edu/gs/cps/50ge/topten.htm
>with links to other info.  How many of the top 50 were the work of 
>Republicans?  of Democrats?  What does this tell us?

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